Hi
I am a new member just joined today ...so forgive me if I miss some things or ask some wrong questions..
I own Fiat Punto 1.2 that failed its MOT sometime ago and I have fallen on some difficult times to pay to repair or pay for repairs etc ....(Its a long complex story)
So I Sorned the Car and was initially lucky to find somewhere to park it on some private land... It was there some months and remained OK until eventually It was broken into and someone had attempted to hotwire it ...after they pulled away a dash board on the drivers side and had somehow parted two wires... that come from the ignition lock and appear to go under the dashboard/ fusebox...
They also seemed to have broken some other various wires that connected from the dash fusebox that I believe were lighting wires that I later have tried to reconnect together and think overall that I have managed to do that OK.
I dont know a lot about cars...Just some basic stuff...but I believe thatI have some fair understanding on certain things..
So I made some enquiries with some local mechanics after I had taken some photos of the situation and was given some varied advice...
One main thing I was told was that they could not had started the car without the Key... and I had also disconnected the battery when I had left the car after Sorning and parking it.
I tried a few things to atempt to restart the car and reconnect some wires etc
but the car will not seem to start just by the use of the key once I connected the battery...BUT I can see the dash board light up...so something still seem to work ok..
Its just that the car wont start and the started Motor wont react when I turn the Ignition key..
I was told to test the started motor by using a wire connected to the positive terminal of the battery and touching it on the starter motor terminals.... when I tried this It did react at least appearing to react or turn once ... but its difficult to get the wire onto the starter motor terminals as its in a very awkward place and hard to reach at last for me...
It was also mentioned to me that the car Key has a chip(for a KEYCODE ) that is needed to start the car...and as I was unable to get the car to start it was suggested that I replace the keycode ...
As I have no Spare money...I am unable to pay for any parts etc at the moment..
and now I have been asked to move the car by the land owner...
I later was able to speak with someone who claimed to be a ex mechanic who said he also used to steal cars...and hotwire them...to me that the car could be hotwired and that who ever had tried to hotwire it had done it wrong as the delt with two wires near the front of the ignition lock..and he told me that they should have delt with the wires that come out the back of the ignition lock..
although he told me some things later for some reason he later decied not to do the thing for me....(There were some further things we had later discussed and later he had to go on a call out.. so I was not able to complete doing the thing he decirbed with him... at the time..)
when I look at the IG lock... I see that it is in two parts...
One part is 3 wires... one brown and one Red...and one orange..that seem to go under the dash board and I think go to the starter motor..
the other part has Blue wires that seem to go back onto the ig lock or somewhere near it...
I am not sure if maybe it also connects to a Relay....
I managed to find a start and charging diagram online for the Punto
but as its my 1st post I cannot add a direct link..but hopefully can add an image..
unfortunately It does not show a KEY for the other component Numbers and Wire colours ..
such as the small box numbers such as 31 , 15, 19.... I assume 2 and 3 in the small white box (on Ignition ( NUMBER 4 in small black box)) refer to connect up to Start Motor and Alternator
This shows the components and wires etc ...where the Battery is as No 1, Starter Motor No 2, Alternator No 3, , Ignition Lock No 4 ,Engine Fuse Box No 5,
the main wires that I refer to are shown from the Ignition as R, M and A
R = Red , M = Brown, A = Blue
It appears to me when you look at the ignition switch that when you turn the key... it connects the RED and BRown wire together and this then seem to relate to the Starter Motor...thru the Engine fusebox..
But I am not really sure what the blue wire does and the orange wire is not shown on the diagram from what I can see...
I wondered if anyone may be familiar with this and if they think it maybe possible to say connect some off these wires to try and start it and bypass the actual keycode lock...or basically Hotwire it...
any advice would be greatly appreciated ..
By any chance is there any copies of the Haynes manual for the wire diagrams on this forum.. on a quick search I could not find any..
At the moment I will not consent to use Yahoo after they changed their rules on data protection etc....
I noted that if I search on how can I hotwire a Fiat this came up...
I wonder if anyone who will use yahoo if maybe they could post the answer to what they say. or suggest if no one else can offer any advice.....
Thank you
Puntog
I am a new member just joined today ...so forgive me if I miss some things or ask some wrong questions..
I own Fiat Punto 1.2 that failed its MOT sometime ago and I have fallen on some difficult times to pay to repair or pay for repairs etc ....(Its a long complex story)
So I Sorned the Car and was initially lucky to find somewhere to park it on some private land... It was there some months and remained OK until eventually It was broken into and someone had attempted to hotwire it ...after they pulled away a dash board on the drivers side and had somehow parted two wires... that come from the ignition lock and appear to go under the dashboard/ fusebox...
They also seemed to have broken some other various wires that connected from the dash fusebox that I believe were lighting wires that I later have tried to reconnect together and think overall that I have managed to do that OK.
I dont know a lot about cars...Just some basic stuff...but I believe thatI have some fair understanding on certain things..
So I made some enquiries with some local mechanics after I had taken some photos of the situation and was given some varied advice...
One main thing I was told was that they could not had started the car without the Key... and I had also disconnected the battery when I had left the car after Sorning and parking it.
I tried a few things to atempt to restart the car and reconnect some wires etc
but the car will not seem to start just by the use of the key once I connected the battery...BUT I can see the dash board light up...so something still seem to work ok..
Its just that the car wont start and the started Motor wont react when I turn the Ignition key..
I was told to test the started motor by using a wire connected to the positive terminal of the battery and touching it on the starter motor terminals.... when I tried this It did react at least appearing to react or turn once ... but its difficult to get the wire onto the starter motor terminals as its in a very awkward place and hard to reach at last for me...
It was also mentioned to me that the car Key has a chip(for a KEYCODE ) that is needed to start the car...and as I was unable to get the car to start it was suggested that I replace the keycode ...
As I have no Spare money...I am unable to pay for any parts etc at the moment..
and now I have been asked to move the car by the land owner...
I later was able to speak with someone who claimed to be a ex mechanic who said he also used to steal cars...and hotwire them...to me that the car could be hotwired and that who ever had tried to hotwire it had done it wrong as the delt with two wires near the front of the ignition lock..and he told me that they should have delt with the wires that come out the back of the ignition lock..
although he told me some things later for some reason he later decied not to do the thing for me....(There were some further things we had later discussed and later he had to go on a call out.. so I was not able to complete doing the thing he decirbed with him... at the time..)
when I look at the IG lock... I see that it is in two parts...
One part is 3 wires... one brown and one Red...and one orange..that seem to go under the dash board and I think go to the starter motor..
the other part has Blue wires that seem to go back onto the ig lock or somewhere near it...
I am not sure if maybe it also connects to a Relay....
I managed to find a start and charging diagram online for the Punto
but as its my 1st post I cannot add a direct link..but hopefully can add an image..
unfortunately It does not show a KEY for the other component Numbers and Wire colours ..
such as the small box numbers such as 31 , 15, 19.... I assume 2 and 3 in the small white box (on Ignition ( NUMBER 4 in small black box)) refer to connect up to Start Motor and Alternator
This shows the components and wires etc ...where the Battery is as No 1, Starter Motor No 2, Alternator No 3, , Ignition Lock No 4 ,Engine Fuse Box No 5,
the main wires that I refer to are shown from the Ignition as R, M and A
R = Red , M = Brown, A = Blue
It appears to me when you look at the ignition switch that when you turn the key... it connects the RED and BRown wire together and this then seem to relate to the Starter Motor...thru the Engine fusebox..
But I am not really sure what the blue wire does and the orange wire is not shown on the diagram from what I can see...
I wondered if anyone may be familiar with this and if they think it maybe possible to say connect some off these wires to try and start it and bypass the actual keycode lock...or basically Hotwire it...
any advice would be greatly appreciated ..
By any chance is there any copies of the Haynes manual for the wire diagrams on this forum.. on a quick search I could not find any..
At the moment I will not consent to use Yahoo after they changed their rules on data protection etc....
I noted that if I search on how can I hotwire a Fiat this came up...
I wonder if anyone who will use yahoo if maybe they could post the answer to what they say. or suggest if no one else can offer any advice.....
how to hotwire a fiat? | Yahoo Answers
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100623190314AAsStnn
23/06/2010 · Best Answer: Hotwiring the car is the easy part. There is a large 4 pin square connector on a pigtail from the ignition switch. With a test light or voltmeter, identify the hot wire from the battery, The 3 remaining large wires are ACC, IGN and start.
Thank you
Puntog
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