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I'm halfway through removing my sump. Have removed the mainfold and have the car up on stands so access is good. Front part of the sump is detached but the back is still attached and I'm struggling to access with a Stanley knife to cut the silicon. Looking for advice how I can get it seperated. Tempted just to tug and yank it but worried about damaging the pickup pipe. Is the pickup located in the shallow or deep end of the sump? Cheers.
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I'm halfway through removing my sump. Have removed the mainfold and have the car up on stands so access is good. Front part of the sump is detached but the back is still attached and I'm struggling to access with a Stanley knife to cut the silicon. Looking for advice how I can get it seperated. Tempted just to tug and yank it but worried about damaging the pickup pipe. Is the pickup located in the shallow or deep end of the sump? Cheers.
If the front is free can you wedge objects between the surfaces all the way on the front side and position them equally to slowly force the front higher till the rear silicon stretches and tears? Might take a while but the silicon is not so strong that it can avoid stretching and eventually tearing
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Aye, they're a bugger to remove with sealant right enough. I got to the stage you are at the moment. Screw in one bolt at front, but only partially, Same at back & try to get something between the surfaces with hammer, be careful not to damage surfaces, ideally a thick strong plastic tool. If you can do this use another tool to lever along with the first tool.

The bolts stop the sump from falling right out when free & you have the use of both hands. Hope this helps.
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Hi Iíve the manifold off and going to take the sump off too as I got the oil pressure light , just bought the car and oil was dirty as was the filter and oil pressure sensor was oily too so hopefully that was why the light was on but may do it all , anyway I havenít undone sump yet which also has fairly advanced rust to the front of it , so if you get it off smoothly any tips would be appreciated i also have car up on ramps , I take it I do I need a new gasket putting the sump back on or would a good sealent do on itís own ???
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Hi Iíve the manifold off and going to take the sump off too as I got the oil pressure light , just bought the car and oil was dirty as was the filter and oil pressure sensor was oily too so hopefully that was why the light was on but may do it all , anyway I havenít undone sump yet which also has fairly advanced rust to the front of it , so if you get it off smoothly any tips would be appreciated i also have car up on ramps , I take it I do I need a new gasket putting the sump back on or would a good sealent do on itís own ???
If you have a Punto then you have sealant.
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If you have a Punto then you have sealant.


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I'm halfway through removing my sump. Have removed the mainfold and have the car up on stands so access is good. Front part of the sump is detached but the back is still attached and I'm struggling to access with a Stanley knife to cut the silicon. Looking for advice how I can get it seperated. Tempted just to tug and yank it but worried about damaging the pickup pipe. Is the pickup located in the shallow or deep end of the sump? Cheers.


Hi got mine off today after leaving petrol in it for few days that I poured down rocker , got it off with small stubby screwdriver , rubber mallet and metal polyfilla spreader / scraper type knife thing , cleaned it up with wire brush , white spirits and rust kill and primer /paint , lump of crud stuck to the opening on the pick up hopefully that was the problem with oil pressure light , the sealant is a pain to remove from the sump lip and small channels hoarding it , banged out a dent too that was right under the pickup , did you get yours off in the end ?
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First pic can see pick up on deeper side( drivers side)
Second used loctite r5922 ?? Hopefully holds
Third all back on and donít know how the guys who leave the exhaust on do it , straightforward but a pain of a job
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Em donít use mr5922 I had it lying around and used it , week later still soft useless as gasket maker and not itís real purpose although it says metal to metal , off with sump thank god itís still empty
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Em donít use mr5922 I had it lying around and used it , week later still soft useless as gasket maker and not itís real purpose although it says metal to metal , off with sump thank god itís still empty
Loctite MR5922 is the same product as Permatex form a gasket number 2. Designed for oil pans and rocker covers for automotive and marine where there is a need for frequent removal. For oil and petroleum.

I used this stuff accidently on my water pump and I had a leak within a month.
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Yep it is meant to be smeared on an existing gasket and add to the seal but I never put oil in until I was happy with a seal , just Gave it a go , going to go with Granville black sealant and prepare it well once what youíve got hardens youíd be unlucky with a leak I think this stuff as a gasket will break down and run through engine before sump starts leaking unless someone can vouch for the loctite mr 5922 in which case Iíll take a chance and put oil in ?
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Took sump off after loctite 5922 on it for a week and it was soft and slimy and the sump practically fell off with last nut (never use loctite MR 5922) hopefully that saves at least one person doing the same , spent hour or so cleaning everything and putting sump back on with black hi temp silicone , did rocker cover gasket too and put a Mann oil filter on / new oil pressure sensor, let sump harden now for bit and then itís exhaust on /new oil and Coolent and hopefully it behaves itself , bleeding punto Coolent more great fun
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