Hello,

I posted a few days ago about my starter motor not getting any power but had no luck even called RAC out and they said it could be a bad starter but I highly doubt that it's a new starter, that was fitted in 2010 according to the Service History the battery had a voltage check done by RAC and came up as 12.67v so all good there but what puzzles me is the battery & oil light stay on when you attempt to start the car.

All other dashboard lights go out after a split seconds, but these two remain on I've done a bit of research and people have said the battery and when I brought the car the guy told me it's not the standard battery for this car, which gives me the conclusion it doesn't have the right power to keep the car powered?

Here's a video I did when trying to start the car, all electronics work in the car e.g. Stereo, A/C, lights, etc.



This issue is really bugging me now just want to get to the bottom of it :bang:

I'd appreciate any help, thanks in advance!

Are you trying to start the car in the video?
If so it seems like no power getting to the starter motor then. Could be a broken wire or maybe wasnt a new unit fitted when it was replaced

Yeah I was trying to start the car in the video, but it's kind of difficult to tell wherever it's a broken wire or not because I have no ramp to put the car on lol the car was working perfectly not yesterday but the day before that? I just checked again it's a brand new unit fitted on 29/1/2011.

take of the cowling under the steering wheel and check the connections on the end of the ignition.

Okay will do and will reply with my findings

the oil and battery light are supposed to be on until the engine is running

does the car not have airbags? i didnt see the Airbag self test
Nore the PAS self test..... Which all punto's mk2 do have....

As for the Other warning lights you see - thats normal

As questioned - you telling it start at that point?
I've had this before where the key seems todo NOTHING

My fault never really reappeared after a couple of months of doing it

But i wonder now these days if the Power Cable from the Alternator/Starter to battery was at fault as it was breaking its connection?

Might be a worthwhile check

Could consider bumping it see what happens?

Ziggy

have you got no fuel or is fuel gauge not working?

Bump starting it always works, I've looked all connections seem to be all tight including all fuses are fine so not really sure what it could be?

The car is low on fuel which as you see is in the box...but when bump starting it the car is fine?

you checked both fuse boxes?

try running a jump lead from battery to starter, if it spins you know its ok

Yeah checked both fuse boxes the one near the battery and one under near the steering wheel, and this where my newbie talk comes into place is it positive terminal to starter or use both positive and negative terminal and straight to starter?

try an eath jump from battery to engine first, if car then starts with key its earth problem.
if that dont work try a + lead to starter conection to try and spin engine with no key

Looking at the thread you started the other day did you do what we suggested?

https://www.fiatforum.com/punto/291325-no-power-starter-motor-mk2.html

The video doesn't tell us anything, the lights stay on because they are the oil pressure light and battery not charging light so don't turn off till the engine is running

Yeah I did everything suggested but nothing solved it

Well if you are 100% confident it's not what we suggested that only leaves the starter motor?

However given there is no starter solenoid click I am still pretty sure it's an engine earth problem

According to the RAC report engine earth is fine, however I'm waiting for my mate to come round with jump leads to do proper tests on the starter and see if I can narrow it down. Will post my results once done the tests

Thanks for all the help

Done all tests and nothing looks like I'll be running her into a garage and buy a starter motor from a scrapyard and get it fitted thanks again for all the help!

A garage!?! its only a few bolts to take off and put new one on, no more than 30mins work!

Don't have access to a ramp so I think it'd be a tad hard to fit a new one from top?