anychance someone has lowered 50mm on 14'' wheels ?

really want to see a picture, if anyone has one or know here there is one can you direct me

cheers

What was wrong with the first thread you started.

brins is actually lowered 50mm but it seems lower then other 50 drops i have seen

also remember with a 50mm drop you wanner be looking at some uprated shocks as well

If it helps my Punto is lowered 50mm on space savers which are 14s. Its been recently updated in members motors so shouldnt be too hard to find

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awesome cheers, sits pretty low then on 14's:slayer:

Fiatpuntomk2b said:

awesome cheers, sits pretty low then on 14's:slayer:

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Hope you like your underside when it comes to speed Bumps

Very low

I wont lower cause of my area, Since its a ""traffic Calmed Area""

Ziggy

Ziggy122 said:

Hope you like your underside when it comes to speed Bumps

Very low

I wont lower cause of my area, Since its a ""traffic Calmed Area""

Ziggy

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its ok i go over speed bumps like a granny anyway

never lowered or driven a lowered car before but its always something ive wanted to do

ill get them fitted if its too much ill just remove them

Fiatpuntomk2b said:

its ok i go over speed bumps like a granny anyway

never lowered or driven a lowered car before but its always something ive wanted to do

ill get them fitted if its too much ill just remove them

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Well I can tell you from experience:

Cons

• Avoid severely bumpy roads. Bog roads are a nono
• Expect extra wear on shocks, bushes and wheel bearings
• You will feel every little bump
• Mind your sump and exhaust
• Your backside won't like you on long journeys
• Due to the extra stiffness of the springs, there may be a slight power sap (barely noticeable)
• Possible rubbage if the wrong tyres are used

Pros

• The car will look much better
• Handling improves
• Easier to put on shocks, wishbones etc

Don't let the cons put you off, I have lowering springs in Bravos since 2009, one of the best things I ever invested in Handling went from quite good to damn awesome and it looks much better lowered

go on coilys i got fk ak's which go down 100 but ive took the helper springs out front and adjuster cups out rear so its down probably about 120 on 15's looks and handles better than springs too

also a lot more expensive and a lot less practical

thing is i could only afford the basic fk coilies but have read/heard that they are quite rubbish. So I'm just getting the 50 mm springs atm

On my Bravo I've got lowering springs and it's a good move. Sure it's much more impractical, and my front bumper now has lumps out it, but at least for me the draw backs don't weigh up to the pros.

We'll see if I'm saying that when I'm on coilovers tho

Basic FKs will be WAY BETTER than old shocks and shorter springs. Plus, you can choose the ride height to suit your needs.

Then get an apology sticker for the back window so folks know why you drive so slow.

• I'm lowered so I'm slow over speed bumps. (I saw one last week!)
• I've lowered my expectations to the point where they've already been met.
• When all else fails, lower your standards.

Its a myth about better handling. The stiff ride only allows the tyres to grip properly on a billiard table smooth race track. On normal roads it will skip and slide and TBH the bouncing looks daft. Has anyone seen a lowered rally car? and they really handle.

it does improve body roll

It does but at a cost of poor wheel tracking over rough roads. Good handling is not only about body roll (which isnt bad in Puntos anyway).

The old BL Mini had hard suspension. Handling mods were to remove the positive camber, soften the springs, fit better dampers but never to lower them. Rally cars were jacked up to improve ground clearance. Try following one and see who corners the best. Even cars with rear beam axles and ultra light front ends were not lowered. There was nothing to gain unless it was to be flat track raced.

As for all out grip... follow a French farmer in his Renault 4 or Deux Chevaux. He never slows down and takes corners with the door handles dragging on the road but they never seem to slide off the road.

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It does but at a cost of poor wheel tracking over rough roads. Good handling is not only about body roll (which isnt bad in Puntos anyway).

The old BL Mini had hard suspension. Handling mods were to remove the positive camber, soften the springs, fit better dampers but never to lower them. Rally cars were jacked up to improve ground clearance. Try following one and see who corners the best. Even cars with rear beam axles and ultra light front ends were not lowered. There was nothing to gain unless it was to be flat track raced.

As for all out grip... follow a French farmer in his Renault 4 or Deux Chevaux. He never slows down and takes corners with the door handles dragging on the road but they never seem to slide off the road.

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so all i said was "it does improve body roll" and get that?!

think you need to calm down

Its an open forum so done for others benefit. Too many folks think lowering improves the handling. On road cars its very unlikely.

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Its an open forum so done for others benefit. Too many folks think lowering improves the handling. On road cars its very unlikely.

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but did i say it improved handling?

WhiteSei said:

Its an open forum so done for others benefit. Too many folks think lowering improves the handling. On road cars its very unlikely.

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2 Bravos here. One has standard springs, mine is lowered. My dads one is a bit roly poly, mine is flat in the corners. Admittedly, there's a good bit more done on mine than just the springs (shocks, arbs, drop links, arms etc) but in the silver car the handling and road holding was very noticeably improved.

Same with the mk1 Puntos. We had an ELX and a Sporting at the same time. The ELX had Bilsteins and sachs dampers to improve the handling. Sporting was factory lowered on standard oil dampers. The difference was chalk and cheese. Corners that we didn't dare take at normal speeds in the ELX (despite the uprated shocks all round) were taken at normal speeds in the Sporting with roll practically eliminated.

I know where you're coming from mind you. Lowering on it's own is a bit of a waste. Shocks, new bushes, uprated arbs are a must to reap in more of the benefits of good handling. Most of the time this is blatantly ignored.

It will improve body roll mind you