Technical Engine is not driving my gearbox, HELP!!!!

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Technical Engine is not driving my gearbox, HELP!!!!

Frazz

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hi, just fitted a new clutch to my car, and when i go to drive off nothing happens, its like the clutch is not even connected, any ideas?, also when i push down the clutch, there is a loud rattling :S
 
Clutch plate will do it and they can end up broken. The gearbox has to come out again then you can find out what was done wrong. Dont forget to check the gearbox bearing.
 
I guessed it was the clutch plate but im gna have to take it out i guess, i fitted it with the spring hub assembly facing away from the flywheel (as said to do in the Hyanes manual) this car is turning out to be a nightmare! :/
 
sounds like what happend to me... clutch drive plate wasnt alligned properly... this was the end result! in the end i got it towed away and let the pros do what they do best...

Edit: forgot to mention it was out by aprox 2-3MM
 

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Did you have the drive shafts out whilst changing the clutch? If so, make sure the shafts are fully home, and the end of the shafts are fully engaged with the gear box and wheel hubs. Otherwise the splines wont fully mesh. Result is no drive and some worrying noises. :eek:
 
* Take old broom handle and saw a piece off to use as a dowel
* Shave dowel down with a blade to the approx diameter of the old clutch's inner splines.
* Take old clutch, take hammer, proceed to hammer dowel through the centre of old clutch. You now have a splined dowel you can use to align new clutch.
* Place splined dowel in splined hole in flywheel, mount new clutch on splined dowel, mount new pressure plate, remove dowel.

Never had any alignment issues using this method.
 
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sounds like what happend to me... clutch drive plate wasnt alligned properly... this was the end result! in the end i got it towed away and let the pros do what they do best...

Edit: forgot to mention it was out by aprox 2-3MM

Yeah i saw your pic in a post you left, im guessing something like that has happened to me i used a proper alignment tool as well so i dont see how i went wrong, but i guess ill have to it it all over again now :/
 
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Well all i can really do is take it apart and do it over again, at least then ill know what's exactly wrong with it.
 
Frazz,

After you've checked the two linkages to the gearstick and with engine not running, select first gear and jack up one front wheel: can you turn the wheel? (answer should be "no" because the diff/gearbox/clutch and stationary engine should make it at least very difficult). If you can't select the gear, jack up first and get someone to rock the wheel a little while you try to put it in gear.

If "YES", you have a disconnected drive train somewhere. Unlikely to be drive shaft splines if you managed to get the suspension reassembled OK. Could be the clutch friction plate if it's seriously damaged (potentially caused by forcefully bolting the bell housing to the engine while splines were not aligned/engaged.

If "NO" (i.e. drive train apparently connected), we need to know whether the clutch is disengaging. Aside of the noise when depressing clutch, are you able to select first (or any) gear while the engine is running? If "NO" the problem may rest with the release mechanism. For instance, could the release bearing have slipped off the shaft during the transmission refit and the noise be the release fork hitting the spinning tines of the pressure plate?

You might want to check my clutch renewal guide in the "guides" section. There's one for Mk1 and another for Mk2.

red
 
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Frazz,

After you've checked the two linkages to the gearstick and with engine not running, select first gear and jack up one front wheel: can you turn the wheel? (answer should be "no" because the diff/gearbox/clutch and stationary engine should make it at least very difficult). If you can't select the gear, jack up first and get someone to rock the wheel a little while you try to put it in gear.

If "YES", you have a disconnected drive train somewhere. Unlikely to be drive shaft splines if you managed to get the suspension reassembled OK. Could be the clutch friction plate if it's seriously damaged (potentially caused by forcefully bolting the bell housing to the engine while splines were not aligned/engaged.

If "NO" (i.e. drive train apparently connected), we need to know whether the clutch is disengaging. Aside of the noise when depressing clutch, are you able to select first (or any) gear while the engine is running? If "NO" the problem may rest with the release mechanism. For instance, could the release bearing have slipped off the shaft during the transmission refit and the noise be the release fork hitting the spinning tines of the pressure plate?

You might want to check my clutch renewal guide in the "guides" section. There's one for Mk1 and another for Mk2.

red

Im pretty sure the friction plate is damaged, as when i run the engine and look in the inspection hole of the bell housing while the clutch peddle is pressed you can see the friction disk bouncing about.
 
Did you fit new clutch because the pressure plate was worn/damaged (the usual cause) or because the friction plate was worn? Just wondering whether the friction plate you took off was still serviceable.

red.
 
Did you fit new clutch because the pressure plate was worn/damaged (the usual cause) or because the friction plate was worn? Just wondering whether the friction plate you took off was still serviceable.

red.

It was because the thrust bearing failed and caused the pressure plate to fail, my dad says the old friction disk has maybe another 20,000 miles left on it but im not so sure, it looks worn very close to the rivets in my opinion, but im not the most experienced person in this area.
 
Puntos tend to lose the pressure plate before the driven plate but they last much the same as other maker's clutches so the friction plate will be all but worn out and at least the rivets have not chewed into the flywheel.

Did you check the gearbox bearing for wear?
 
Puntos tend to lose the pressure plate before the driven plate but they last much the same as other maker's clutches so the friction plate will be all but worn out and at least the rivets have not chewed into the flywheel.

Did you check the gearbox bearing for wear?

No, but i will do when i take the gearbox out again, where would i buy a new gearbox bearing?
 
Bearing may be ok. But seals and bearings are standard parts from bearings factors and not costly. Look at the guide by @Mr Wild.
 
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