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Exclamation Pushed Off Road...

So,
I'm attempting to overtake a large truck on a wide road and he pulls over to the right. I think ok....... he isn't moving over to the left.

I wait behind him and he pulls over to the left of the road. Again I begin overtaking him and he starts pulling to the right again i'm side by side and he's still moving into me, forcing me over the middle off the road onto the oncoming road.

Jesus christ I was thinking, this guy is trying to crush my poor little Punto. He came so close I slammed on the horn while moving further into the oncoming road where a car is now coming, what a f***ing prick, I got past him luckily.

Got his number plate.
What can I do about him?? Police??

Road: A660 leading onto dual carriageway of (A65)
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

Did you see what company the truck was from? I'd probably contact them in the first instance. I hate it when people don't let you overtake for no reason - especially people who speed up when you're trying to get past
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I'm not sure what company, the truck was so dirty......... I was concentrating on keeping my car and body in one piece.

Anyway, do you think I could call the police and get them to check over the road camera, if there is one?
I want this guy banned from driving for at least a year. (probably does it to everyone).
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

If you can't contact the company then yes, I'd go to the police. I was forced off the road by a white Escrote van once overtaking even though he'd seen me. Ended up on the verge at 60mph and very nearly in a ditch. If I'd have got his number, I'd be on the phone to the police.
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

there is a form you can collect at your local station, it's number escapes me at the moment, something like form 966, this gets passed on to the local traffic unit who will look into the matter.

it sounds like what you are describing is "driving without due care and attention" borderline "dangerous driving", but that will be a judgement call from the local unit
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

Experience tels me that the police will take the details, but will probably not try very hard.

Why ??

My wife's car was rear ended at traffic lights, but the driver reversed and drove off.
My wife got the number (an 04 reg Vctra), and reported it to the police.

Their reaction was "just come to the police station with your documents and report it"

They won't do anything for 24 hours saying they are giving the Vectra owner 24 hours to report the accident.

After 2 weeks they sent a notice of intent to prosecute to the owner, instructing the owner to inform the police who was driving. (They get 2 weeks to reply)

4 weeks later we find out (they don't keep us informed) that there has been no reply from the owner which turns out to be a car lease-hire company in Hounslow. (Only found this out from my brother who is a detective in Kent police and is following this up for us)

Now, because the car is registered out of our area, our police have to pass it on to another police force and we have to wait for them to get off their backsides and do something.

Its now been 2 months since it happened and my wife has had to claim from her insurance. (one more claim and there goes the no-claims bonus), we have had to pay the 150 excess and have got nowhere with the law and on top of that we have found out that if the police do not prosecute the other owner/driver within 6 months then they simply abandon the case.

So in other words, as far as the police are concerned there is too much paperwork and too many police forces involved to do anything about it, and besides it far easier to sit back and rake money in from speed cameras.

If you do report it, I hope you have better luck than us.

If you can report it to the owners of the truck I know from experience, (I am a DSA registered LGV driving instructor for a large logistics haulage company), that the majority of large haulage companies will make further enquiries and if necessary, discipline the driver and make him undergo a driving assessment and possibly even remedial training. But remember that there are an awful lot of smaller companies and owner drivers who couldn't give a toss as long as the job gets done.
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"Now, because the car is registered out of our area, our police have to pass it on to another police force and we have to wait for them to get off their backsides and do something."

frankly you get the police service you pay and request for, the public want more accountablilty and tracking of every officers actions and decisions, to the point where anything up to 70% of my day is spent behind a desk filing reports and gathering information

"They won't do anything for 24 hours saying they are giving the Vectra owner 24 hours to report the accident."

after an accident you are required to report it to police station as soon as you can or within 24 hours, thats a given no matter where you go

"So in other words, as far as the police are concerned there is too much paperwork and too many police forces involved to do anything about it, and besides it far easier to sit back and rake money in from speed cameras."

won't even dignify
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I am not sure you should bother wasting your time.

Gf's car was sat outside the house. A lorry came down the road (which has a weight and width limit unless for access). It slammed into the back of the rover 114 and absolutely trashed the back. Was witnessed by a man across the road who wrote down the number plate and lorry company (He had long enough!) and waited until my gf's family noticed. An hour later they came out and saw it, he came over, gave his name, address and phone number and said he was willing to give a statement etc. as the lorry driver obviously needed sorting out.

THey immediately went down to the police station and gave everything they knew to them. Phone call later that day saying they had gone to the lorry company and found a damaged lorry matching the description and reg plate.

6 weeks later they got a "insufficient evidence letter"

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He IS required to report the accident in 24 hours, but what sort of idiot is going to imagine that someone who rams the back of your car then backs up and drives off past the person you have just hit, is even going to waste a second of time considering reporting it. Thats why he drove away.

It should have been followed up immediately

When my wife's previous car was stolen about 2 years ago, it was found by the police at about a mile away after being reported by a concerned citizen. We got a phone call from the police to go and collect it ASAP as it was "parked on a double yellow line with the passenger door wide open"

When we got there the door was still wide open, they hadnt even bothered to close it

They were apparently informed by someone as to who had stolen it as the person who informed the police new them and saw them abandon it

Surprise, surprise, not enough evidence.

First claim on the insurance.

So much for an caring police force
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

I better say there may have been circumstances that they weren't made aware of and it was south wales police. Not that it should make any difference! It was a extremely clear cut case, evidence, witness, damage, etc.! They ended up having to pay the excess and the lorry driver is still on the road. (He drove off after near writing off a car parked at the side of the road!)
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

I just want the police to do the job they are supposed to be there for, to bring these people to book and quickly

When I was a lad (about 40 years ago) I was caught by the beat bobby while I was riding my bycicle with no front light and he put the fear of god into me and I certainly never did it again

Now it appears to be compulsory to ride a bycicle at night with no lights at all, to be wearing dark clothes and oh I nearly forgot, the bycicle MUST be a stolen one, because as sure as eggs are eggs you are not going to be stopped by the police, particularly by the beat bobby as I have not seen one on the beat for years and I imagine it must be difficult to get out of a warm car on a cold night

In the course of my work I have only ever met one officer who I would describe as gentleman and an effective officer and he was an inspector at Pontefract.

I have no doubt that there are police officers who feel frustrated at being tied by red tape etc, and that there are officers who are very fine people and officers, but unfortunately our experience of the police in an official capacity has been very negative and left us feeling unsupported

My brother the officer in Kent has now phoned me to tell me that he is going to try and keep the pressure on with our local force. If he can get a result, great, if not then it is only what we expect
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

Don't get me wrong, I think most of the police officers in our country do their best but they are held down by a number of things:

Admin
Difficulty of proof
Worries of being complained about at every turn
Lack of numbers

Turboned will be able to suggest whether I am talking bull or not (he is a traffic cop).

For example, I go to Manchester Uni and live in halls about 2 miles away from the uni. In the past 2 weeks of uni following a mugging outside my window (literally 10m away) I have seen the university's security men about 8 times. Bearing in mind I only go in and out of the halls once a day and are around for about 5 minutes in total outside each day, that's a stupidly high number. They make me feel safe. They may only wear a stab vest and have powers of citizen's arrest but unlike the police, they are there and present and I know that my safety will come first for them.

I believe like you do that no copper wants to sit at a desk filling in forms all day. I just beg somebody will sort it out ASAP.
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

these posts remind me of how useless the police can be
a couple off years ago a car crashed into our front garden and hit the house, there was loads of people who seen it at a bus stop over the road. the car was being driven by two brothers and they both jumped out and tryed to blame it on the wet road even though they were doing 45-50 mph in a 30 zone when the police got here they both said each other was driving so the police couldnt prosecute any of them even though about 7 people said who it was. so me mam and dad had to pay for all the repairs
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Re: Pushed Off Road...

See a problem with our law, they can blame each other and get away with it.
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