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Post Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

Has anyone ever used it?? I've heard it supposed to be abit of a nightmare.. The instructions are quite daunting and to be honest I don't quite get the proceedure.

Any tips would be appreciated.

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I bought some for a temporary rad repair and never used it. The risks of damage elsewhere are too great and it only works if the coolant channels are clean. How likely is that?

A waste of money and not worth the risk.

If the head gasket has failed fit a new one. If the rad leaked fit a new one.
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I bought some for a temporary rad repair and never used it. The risks of damage elsewhere are too great and it only works if the coolant channels are clean. How likely is that?

A waste of money and not worth the risk.

If the head gasket has failed fit a new one. If the rad leaked fit a new one.
I think the hg is possibly on its way out, n can't really afford to have it done at present but need my car on the road for work, I have used the radweld stuff before on radiator n had no problems with it, just an idea with cash being tight. Thanks for the advice
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Re: Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

Wouldn't use it for a head gasket, i tryed it on mine and it got alot worse as soon as I put it in :s dunno why! But DIY it if it's an 8v you have. Less than 100 and not actually that hard
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Re: Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

Using Radweld in your radiator could well be the reason you have suspected head gasket failure now. Cooling channels are very small in the head and Radweld has a habit of welding up these channels, causing localised overheating. Not worth it in my opinion, particularly that you can get brand new radiators for less than 30 and it's DIY fitment.
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Re: Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

It's great if you are planning on selling the car tomorrow, not so great if you want to keep it for more than a few days.

For sealing headgaskets, see above. It will likely increase the pressure in the unblocked channels (the ones that are leaking into the cylinders at the moment), causing it to fail even faster.

My dad just changed the coolant on his Rover 416; the coolant was a bright yellow/green colour, caused by the use of similar stuff by the previous owner. When we took the rad out the top and bottom 1/3 were completed rotted through (but not leaking). After finding that it was pretty obvious why it was getting warm when sat in traffic.
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Head gaskets are 50 Rads about 50 and cam belt kits about the same for an 8V engine. Do the job yourself using the Fiat Forum guide.

If you keep driving the engine will be damaged and you may well take out the exhaust catalyst and lambda sensor, at least doubling the repair parts costs.

If you use Wondarweld its gonna cost 15 plus cost of chemical cleaning the cooling system and doing a thorough flush afterwards. Its also virtually impossible to get all of the wondarweld out so you risk blocking even a new radiator and clogging who-knows what inside the engine. That 15 pack could soon be 150 on top of what you need to buy anyway to repair the engine.

On the good side, the car cant be used until its repaired so at least you wont be spending your non-existent cash on petrol etc.
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Re: Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

So good you posted twice eh WhiteSei? It may be worth pointing out that 50 for the head gasket is 25 for the gasket, and 25 to have a machine shop skim your head. No point even attempting to do it without skimming the head since it will have been localised warping of ther head that caused gasket failure in the first place. Need it to be machined flat for the new gasket to be effective. You will also need inlet and exhaust manifold gaskets too. Take the opportunity to flush the cooling system and refill with the correct coolant/water mixture. Might be worth replacing the oil and filter too to eliminate cross-contamination with the coolant.

Also worth pointing out that the 50 for the timing belt kit should include a tensioner and a new pump too.
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What ever you do, DON'T put it in with the oil !!!

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Re: Advice on the use of wondarweld please??

It took a surprising number of posts before anyone pointed out the engine was screwed.
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What ever you do, DON'T put it in with the oil !!!

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As for Radweld etc. I put some in the rad of my Punto when I first picked it up as it was leaking. Got it up to temperature, and it was still peeing water all over the floor. Ordered a new Rad, flushed the water system thoroughly (Had a hose blasting through it for a good 30 mins), then fitted the new radiator. Fitting a few one takes less than an hour DIY.
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