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I've been following the thread about changing transmission oil on a Speedgear auto box and out of curiosity had a look at the service schedule for the Dualogic which says it should be changed every 12k miles. As I did not get any additional info about the Dualogic system when I got the car does anyone out there have a Dualogic and if you do is there an additional instruction booklet (or leaflet) that goes with it. If there is and you would be willing to copy it and send to me that would be great.
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I've been following the thread about changing transmission oil on a Speedgear auto box and out of curiosity had a look at the service schedule for the Dualogic which says it should be changed every 12k miles. As I did not get any additional info about the Dualogic system when I got the car does anyone out there have a Dualogic and if you do is there an additional instruction booklet (or leaflet) that goes with it. If there is and you would be willing to copy it and send to me that would be great.
there should indeed be a small booklet instructing you on how to use the gearbox

if you bought the car from a main dealer they might give you one if you complain

if your intrested to know about serving then all you ned to know is as far as the actul box goes it's a robotised manual gearbox and should be serviced the same as a manual gearbox oil changed at 92k miles

the robotised system attached to it howether does require it's hydraulic oil changed i can't for the life of me remember when fiat say thou havn't done many i can find out if this intrests you
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I've been following the thread about changing transmission oil on a Speedgear auto box and out of curiosity had a look at the service schedule for the Dualogic which says it should be changed every 12k miles. As I did not get any additional info about the Dualogic system when I got the car does anyone out there have a Dualogic and if you do is there an additional instruction booklet (or leaflet) that goes with it. If there is and you would be willing to copy it and send to me that would be great.
I think you'll find it's checked every 12,000 miles not "changed".

As pip said, it's a manual box (with levels checked/oil changed as per a 'normal' 1.2 8v) with a hydraulic selector mechanism which uses a separate built-in reservoir with it's own special fluid.

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what punto this on then?
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Thanks for that, have just rechecked and you are right it is checked every 12k miles.
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I think you'll find it's checked every 12,000 miles not "changed".

As pip said, it's a manual box (with levels checked/oil changed as per a 'normal' 1.2 8v) with a hydraulic selector mechanism which uses a separate built-in reservoir with it's own special fluid.

yea but note the hydraulic oil does have to be changed at some stage it is not fill for life or anything like that i jut not sure something like 6th service or something i really aught to have a look tomorrow
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Re: Dualogic Transmission

How you finding the transmission so far?
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I'm still experiencing a judder when pulling away for the very first time - that goes away very quickly - and acting on advice received, by giving the car more revs on the first pull away that definitely helps. As for the performance of the Dualogic system, I think it works well. In non economy mode the gears change at higher revs and sometimes (particularly in 2nd gear) the gear change seems reluctant to come resulting in much higher revs than you would expect. In economy mode the gear changes have a more solid feel to them and while acceleration is slower it makes the car feel better. In manual mode it works really well - I like the smoothness of the changes - you really do not feel the changes happening and by keeping your foot on the accelerator you can get a quite nippy performance.
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or theres a new software update...probably not available in AUS though!
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or theres a new software update...probably not available in AUS though!
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or theres a new software update...probably not available in AUS though!
i thought that was to solve jurky gearchanges witch he does not have

the judering is just borgbeck clutch doing it's usual and needs a little abuse to sort or replacement with valeo would be the ultimate fix

and the sudden jerking set off's are the clutch bite point has worn quicker than the ecu expects meaning simply need a clutch learn assive you had just replaced the clutch but havn't

not sure if you have tried this on the ones that jerk as you set off but don't show any judder or jerky gear changes before t4 it stops the problem all together works very well have done a few and they have not come back with any problems some very happy customers

as we don't see to many of thee cars and customers don't often complain about gear changes i have never personally updated gearbox ecu so not sure what it helps with but never read the campain

but as you are relearning the clutch anyway after updating the ecu then you can never tell witch procedure has actually fixed the car as you are forced to do both right

anyway when i start to see some dualogic 500s for pdi i'm guna be checking the gearbox for updates just to make sure every one i do is perfect
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i thought that was to solve jurky gearchanges witch he does not have
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Re: Dualogic Transmission

Re littlepip's last post on this subject - how does the ecu relearn the clutch setting? Is it just something that happens after a while or by doing the higher rev starts in 2nd gear that eventually sorts it out? Any info would be welcome.
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Re: Dualogic Transmission

Mine's had a few clutch re-learns and that didn't help.
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