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Old 31-07-2004   #1
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Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

Have just taken delivery of my shiny new Punto Sporting this afternoon, however about 10 miles from the garage (it's an importer, so there was no point turning round), the Hill Holder failure light came on.

Any idea if this is going to cause me problems short-term (I've stalled it a couple of times from hill starts, unsure if this is the failure or me getting used to a new car)?

Is it possible to switch the hill holder off?

I can get it to the garage tomorrow, but as it's not come from them, I expect the service to be surly at best and if it's not a major issue, I'd prefer not to bother for now.
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:I hill holder....????


EVERYONE- SPRAY YOUR PUNTOS BLACK

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I guess its for starting up hill?
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I'm assuming its an automatic then. The manual will tell you if it can be switched by the driver. Otherwise its a garge job.

Don't forget the pics.[8D]

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Nah, it's a manual. From what I can gather, it "holds" the clutch for an extra couple of seconds to give you time to move your foot from the brake to the accelerator. Completely pointless. And it's messing up my new car.

Aside from that, no complaints! The 1.4 engine is *really* nippy (I'm coming from a P-reg 1.2 8v though, so I may be wrong), and the 6-speed box is surprisingly good.

I'll get a photo or two up tomorrow.
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Wierd, don't they know about h/brakes.

Good luck anyway and i'll look out for the pics.

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The hill holder system will hold the brakes on for approx 2/3 seconds allowing you time to get the bite of tthe clutch correct when pulling up a hill it will also operate the same for going down hill, all you do is dab the brake pedal when in 1st and it will operate.......Check that the brake lights work as the 4 pin pedal switch also sends signal to the abs control node.(It`s a very good option when used):)
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I think there should be a couple of photos at the bottom of this post, but we'll see...

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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

I couldn't tell you how to fix it, but it is quite a good system!
Just takes a bit of getting used to!
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

I assume the MkII Sporting doesn't have it...?
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

Quote Originally Posted by klaus23
I assume the MkII Sporting doesn't have it...?
Nah it doesn't (but then again, neither does my new one!).

The car's now developed an annoying behind dash rattle, plus the gearlever gaiter pops out and flaps around whenever you put it into reverse (can't imagine this being hard to fix though). Time to head to the dealer I think...

Other than these problems, the car is superb. Much better (so far) than my old 75SX.
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

Quote Originally Posted by almcluskey
The car's now developed an annoying behind dash rattle
Mine does this too.
Apparently, two hoses are prone to perishing and bang together, making the knocking/rattling sound.
Fiat should sort it under warranty.
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

Just in case anyone's interested, took it into the garage a couple of months ago to get them to have a look at this. When I booked it in, told them (Arnold Clark) that it was coming up Hill Holder failure on the display. Got a phone call from them about halfway through the day and - I kid you not - they asked *me* what a hill holder was. Anyway, having offered me a courtesy car, they took it back in for another day - I'm almost certain so that they could get all the mechanics trained in this new feature that they didn't know existed. Turns out that the clutch switch had gone, so they replaced that and hill holder started to work. And what a genius invention it is! The only problem with it is that I drive other cars a lot due to my work, and you always sit on a hill, bring the brake up then **** yourself when it starts rolling backwards.
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

thanks for posting back the results, always a good move it might help someone else oneday.
been on the forum over a year and thats first time i recall arnold clark fixing something first time, did they charge?
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Re: Punto Sporting - Hill Holder failure

Quote Originally Posted by dave
thanks for posting back the results, always a good move it might help someone else oneday.
been on the forum over a year and thats first time i recall arnold clark fixing something first time, did they charge?
Wasn't the first time it had been in for it. First time they did their "fixes everything" solution of clearing out the fault log and resetting the computer. They didn't charge (would have been a bit cheeky given that the thing hadn't worked since the day I got it). It's back into the garage for a couple of days tomorrow as it's making a horrible rumbling noise in reverse, the clutch is hopefully getting replaced and they'll maybe see fit to actually trying to sort the squeak behind the dashboard...
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