looks like a new backbox is on the xmas list,
was coming back from the dentist, and i heard a bang, i thought my exhaust had blown =/, but then i heard constant scraping, what happened was the pipe connecting to the backbox has fallen off and it was simply holding on by the bracket
was kinda hoping this would happen, i wanted a shiny new aftermarket exhaust

now the stories over, the reason why i posted this, if i were to buy a tailor made backbox for a punto mk2, would it fit to where the stock one fell off?

Hi mate.

It all depends if you have the original 1 part system on the car, or if you have had a new centre section or back box in the cars life. An after market exhaust made for the Punto Mk2 should join just before the rear of the fuel tank and infront of the rear suspension arm. If this join is not there (is a clamp type join), then you will need to cut your existing centre section. By the sounds of it, your exhaust has come away where it joins into the back box itself?? If this is the case, then you could try one of those universal exhaust jobbies, but personally i would stay away from them, as you will rarely get one to fit right.

This is what you are looking for under the car....


Hope that helps,
Alan

i'll jack my car up tomorrow and have a look underneath tomorrow when it's light, its probably a standard one piece system that'll need cutting, and yeah i don't intend to get a universal backbox, heard alot of bad press about them on the forum

ta for the help

if i need to get around is it alright to take the backbox off the bracket and drive without it for a bit?

you might get pulled over about the noise, but my brother drove his mk1 85elx for several k without a back box, he noticed he had more power but also higher fuel consumption, the 1.2 16v has a center silencer

make sure you secure the rest of the exhaust

the mk2 8v has the 2 bit system from new.
mrs daves 16v has broke the same i just bought the 8v backbox for it off ebay £20 new, and its going to fit, i will have to cut off a bit of the remaining pipe on the car, but it is going to fit

the same thing happened on 3 of my punto's., I just welded them back on and there grand.,

anyone know about how much a new std exhaust would cost, because if there's not much difference in the price between std and an aftermarket one i'll probably go for an aftermarket one, looked underneath my car and there is a clamp join a1ant was talking about so fitment of an aftermarket one doesnt seem like too big a job, saying that i'll still probably get it fitted by a professional anyway, hehe

and another thing, would this fit my car, thats from a 8v and mines a 16v, not sure of any difference between the 2 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stainless-Ste...ryZ10382QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

ta for your help

Hi, no interest in aftermarket exhausts whatsoever (sorry).
What i do need is some help / info because my Mk1 has dropped its exhaust. backbox? I'm not sure anyway the end bit that is round and boxlike is dangling (i didn't have much of a look because someone nice offered to give me a lift home if i was quick so i left the car in the uni carpark and i had work to get to.)

Basicly that bit seemed to just fall and dangle (i heard it as i moved forward after reversing out of my parking space at uni) and wedged itself between road and car - kindof vertically.......

My questions:
1. is it safe enough to drive if i can secure the bit thats dangling somehow? And if how what's the best method (i've read here about rubber brackets holding the exhaust and that it might just clip back or else cable ties would tie round those).
2. Is it likely that the pipe has rusted through or something meaning i need a new exhaust? If thats true i hope its not expensive but thats not an issue right away.
3. Is it likely to be an easy fix or a tough one or a new exhaust or part? My Dad has very closely guarded tools but he has tools for every occassion - i tend to improvise and break screws he plans ahead and does things properly. He certainly has various sockets and screwdrivers and many toolkits and used to change his own oil.. thats about all i know about him and cars except he had a mini as his first car. Perhaps if the thing has just come loose and fallen it can be put back like someone on here said easy fix and wasn't charged by garage.

I have some electrical tape in the car i think draper something but that probably won't be able to hold it i guess..... My dad would know all about this stuff but he has work in the morning and i really need to get the car back here and to the mechanic i know so he can sort it for me

The best way i can explain it was i moved off and i heard a loud clang/bang, thought i'd gone over something in the carpark, got out, looked i saw cracked tarmac but no kindof bump in the road and the car looked normal so i got back in, tried to move off and scraping noise etc so went straight to look at the exhaust which had stuck itself vertically between car and road (the backbox i assume, round boxlike thing with exhaust pipe on end)

Any ideas will be helpful to me and maybe others, i post in this topic because it has the right name and i'd like an answer rather than looking through more topics (i've read several).
Thanks

take it off the brackets if you can, it's alrite to drive without it, i did for a bit before i got my exhaust fitted, you can get the rear tailbox from breakers yards or i find this site's good, www.onlineautomotive.co.uk, what you want is a rear silencer, tailbox, back box, they all mean the same, you might as well get it done by an exhaust specialist, they'll order the part in and fit it, and it shouldn't be too pricey, if you want to diy, or have your dad do it that's fair enough, just need to have the have raised so you can work underneath it

A universal backbox should be ok to fit, all you do is work out how much shorter the universal box is than the original and cut a piece of pipe to match. Then weld, or clamp that to the box. The box will probably be supplied with a basic bolt-on hanger, so use that to suspend it, and then clamp / weld the new pipe to the old pipe. You might need to chop the old pipe. Use a bit of fire gum to stop any leaks. Its best to have a mate to help and of course some ramps. hope this helps

Cheers, prob best to get a specialist to look at it i guess as they'll have parts, alright if its relatively cheap. Can anyone recommend anywhere in canterbury or else i'll just take it over to one in broad oak near toyota garage.

I looked on Fiat ePer at the top of this site and it says the following:

Catalized Silencer
Listed price: 180.45 GBP
(price without tax ahhhhhhhh)

Which seems a rdiciulous price to pay, although the diagram on the ePer doesn't actually point out which bit that is very well.

Whereas the site you listed gives this: http://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/product_details.php?part_id=78413&type=part&table=1

I wouldn't expect it to cost too much, i'd rather get it done in Canterbury or any garage where they're likely to have the parts than the mechanic i know cos he'll just order from Fiat and have to suffer their prices unless i can get hold of the part or tell him where its cheaper? and it comes from Canterbury anyway

...this driving lark is turning out to be more expensive than i thought......although to be fair i only bought the car for £600 quid and its a P reg good condition only things its had done so far are replaced linkage between gearbox and gearstick and replaced sub frame bushes. Although i would like to know if more of the exhaust stuff is likely to start falling off (i very much doubt it) but you never know. Apparently the exhaust had to be lowered to get to the gearbox linkage so i was clinging on to the hope that it might just have come loose... but silencers sound pretty cheap from what ppl have said. Don't fancy payin £200 just for a part tho!

Catalized Silencer is the front bit,

Thanks for clearing that up about Catalized sliencer. This is probably a really common thing but i didn't have anything to secure it with before and dont keep tools in the car not that i have anything but screwdrivers. What happened was the old exhaust had rusted through just before the silencer/backbox so new rear section was needed inc backbox. Kwik fit had the part where i live so was done quickly. Dunno if a 3 year guarantee is good for this sort of thing but i'm happy enough..

Just a note to others fiat have a range of different ones of these listed so i'd check against ur car if you're buying the part urself..... i'd guess people fitting themself would go aftermarket though and not have to worry. Kwik fit mechanics at first thought fiat had fitted the 6 speed model because the five speed they had listed for the car was slightly longer so came too close to the bumper........ then they found another one which was the right part and fitted perfectly and charged the same price although it was apparently more expensive.

I know people bash Kwik fit for some stuff, but then i dont know what experiences people have had, afterall they specialise in exhausts, tyres and oil changes i think - things where you can get the car up on a ramp get it done then go, so i guess if you give them something difficult its not really their field... although being mechanics if they can get the parts they should no what theyre doin. Anyway i went there because i didn't have the time to wait around. There was a retired mechanic there actually havin his exhaust done - so he trusts them.

out of curiosity how much did they charge?

How much did this cost you out of interest eddie? The same has happened to mine (I was on the motorway and it took out one of my tyres when it fell off :S) I'm thinking of fitting it myself if I can get the right part.However I need a few things doing (brake pads, spark plugs) so at the end of the day garage may work out more time and money effective.

cumon spark plugs are easy you realy shouldnt pay a grage to do that .. brake pads you could justify under "its a critical parts and needs to be doen correctly" ..