Hey guys,

I am test driving a Punto MK2.5 JTD HGT on thursday with every intention of buying it

I wanted the normal petrol HGT but finding one at a dealer proved difficult so with abit of searching and some emotional training to accept a diesel I have set my heart on it!

But the question is... Are they any good? I would consider a remap in future but at the moment will keep in standard as the only reason I am after one is to save some pennys on the finance/fill up costs over the Panda 100HP... which is averaging 28.7 MPG at current

Cheers for any replys!

It is a different driving experience. The engine is bullet proof. And Diesels aren't slow. Go for it.

I would go with the JTD you will get around 42mpg or more probably, is it the 1.9 or the 1.3? The HGT 1.8 is around 28-32mpg so you wouldint really be saving the pennys.

I thought you decided on keeping the panda?

The JTD engine is fantastic, averages 50mpg around town, 60mpg on the motorway and with a remap is very nippy.

I can vouch for it, all the performance of a HGT without the running costs.

And more mid range grunt as well, a great drive

Oh but it sounds like a tractor... I like tractors.

Only thing I will say is prepare to buy a new clutch if you get it remapped, the standard clutch doesn't like coping with the extra power that the remap provides and unfortunately there aren't many uprated clutch options.

the mk2b jtd hgt has a better gearbox than the mk2 jtd

I thought the clutch was the same? Thus as prone to slippage?

I've lived with some clutch slip for 10k now, nothin to worry about IMO

Randomman said:

I thought the clutch was the same? Thus as prone to slippage?

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no the hgt jtd is fitted with a geatrag gearbox, i think its slightly lower geared
and the engine is 100bhp which would cause a jtd to judder as mine did with 97bhp (now has 128bhp)

The HGT JTD is only on the MK2.5b if I remember correctly and is standard at 100HP and 192 Lb/ft and I have seen something saying the gearbox and clutch is slightly better but I cant find an evidence to support that claim!

For some who dont know the HGT JTD is just a MK2.5b HGT with all the same equipment, same styling but has the diesel lump

Sammi.... I was going to keep the Panda 100HP but I still am after something that can save me a few pennys on the Finance and this will so I think I will go for it... Going tomorrow!!!!?!!

Cheers

most important part is the HGT & HGT JTD both have 4wheel discs, a dramatic improvement over the lower models.

AFAIK they also have fancier front suspension uprights?


but why do you HAVE to buy one from a dealer?

Right, different gearing, but the clutch is still same.

Either way I cant see it remapping to more as its the same engine and same turbo.

Randomman said:

I can vouch for it, all the performance of a HGT without the running costs.

And more mid range grunt as well, a great drive

Oh but it sounds like a tractor... I like tractors.

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Doesn't your engine have solid lifters? You might need to reshim it...

Randomman said:

Right, different gearing, but the clutch is still same.

Either way I cant see it remapping to more as its the same engine and same turbo.

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i think its an mjet and there often remapped to 150bhp although performance isn't much better than 128bhp jtd

TBH 128 makes for a stable engine, and the car itself can just about handle the torque without torque steer becoming noticable.


you'll still need to uprate the cltuch, which would probably wear out at 80-90k anyway, so just do it then


as for gearing, whats different about it? lower revving in 5th gear? or does it have a 6speed?

Hey,

Im not sure if it had a 6 speed or 5 speed will let you know on Friday when I pick it up from Mangoletsi!

The JTD HGT is a MultiJet (whatever that means) @ 100HP & 192 Lb/Ft

I am not very clued up with Diesels..

Cheers

Should only have 5 speed for the 100bhp 1.9 Multijet JTD..

Its Multijet its own thing or what Fiat call Common-Rail?

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Its Multijet its own thing or what Fiat call Common-Rail?

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all jtd are common rail, the mjet on the punto uses 1-3 injections of fuel whereas jtd is unijet only one injection of fuel