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Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Hello again guys, went to get brake fluid changed this morn, Halfords also carried out a free brake check, said to me that my brake drums needed replacing as well as the rear brake shoes, I will say the brake drums do look very rusty and could most likely do with a change, however theyíve quoted me £400 to do both! I couldnít pay that, I had a little look online about changing them, parts arenít too expensive and it doesnít look too hard, but that could just be different when I come to do it lol, anyone have any more info or help as to what I could do if I do come to fit them.

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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Thought you said on monday they were ok.?

Rusty drums means nothing..

It is the inside wearing diameter that gets bigger through wear..
What diameter did they measure?

The max. Is cast into the drum

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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Yeah the front ones are all good as they are the discs, they said they would check the brakes anyhow as thatís what I was booked in for originally

It was just the back ones he mentioned to me that needed replacing, he said the shoes were at the minimum and then said the brake drum was at the max? He said that it would cost more as there is a bearing that comes with the drum also?

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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Had similar with our Seicento..

Ended up with a similar bill.. but it was there for an out of time MOT..

So had little option.

You have time to shop around..

Generally the rears take @ 40,000 miles from max to min. What has the car covered?
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
Had similar with our Seicento..



Ended up with a similar bill.. but it was there for an out of time MOT..



So had little option.



You have time to shop around..



Generally the rears take @ 40,000 miles from max to min. What has the car covered?


Ah thatís fair enough! Yeah gonna have to look around last option Iíll do it myself if not!

Iíve owned it from 80k but not sure if they have been changed before then, I doubt it as the last person that had it covered a lot of miles in a few months reckon it will be due a change
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

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He said that it would cost more as there is a bearing that comes with the drum also?
Are we sure that you need also new bearings? As I saw on YouTube, drum can be removed by unscrewing 2 small screws...it has nothing to do with bearing... I have PuntoIII, maybe EVO is different. Another thing are shoes - to replace them you need to unscrew big center nut which is holding bearing, but bearing can be re-used again I think...
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Are we sure that you need also new bearings? As I saw on YouTube, drum can be removed by unscrewing 2 small screws...it has nothing to do with bearing... I have PuntoIII, maybe EVO is different. Another thing are shoes - to replace them you need to unscrew big center nut which is holding bearing, but bearing can be re-used again I think...


Iím not sure I do really, he told me that if he were to order new drums thereís a bearing or something that comes with it? I had a fiesta thatís wheel bearings were going and they made a huge noise like a bike, but I donít hear that.

Want to do it myself as doesnít seem too difficult just want to know what he meant by the bearing, as nothing on job report about it
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

This should be the same I think. He also changed shoes without removing cap/unscrewing center nut/removing bearing.
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/FIAT-PUNTO-E...8AAOSwWkFchO6f
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Fiat-Punto-E...YAAOSwEbVcGn61


And as you can see, rear bearing is complete separated thing (included with new hub, ABS ring, nut and cap) : https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Fiat-Punto-E...cAAOSwKM9ZqH0k
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Great video thanks mate, doesnít look too difficult then really, just need to buy a new set of drums and just put them on like the vid says.

Unsure what to do about bearing really if it doesnít need replacing
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

There's another useful guide here too if you need it:

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...rip-clean.html

Although written for the Grande Punto, it should apply equally to the Evo.
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Will give that one a go! Thanks for the help!
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

The video is from a forum regular..
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Got it now, brilliant guide will definitely use that one
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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post

Rusty drums means nothing..

It is the inside wearing diameter that gets bigger through wear..
What diameter did they measure?

The max. Is cast into the drum

Charlie
Just in case corrosion has obscured the max diameter on the drum itself, this table from the Grande Punto eLEARN may be of use:

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Re: Brake Drum and Shoes need replacing?

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The video is from a forum regular..
Yep that was me. Drum brakes are strangely slightly more complicated than discs usually due to all the springs clips and the handbrake, that said once youíve sone one, youíve done them all*

There is no need to replace the bearing if the bearing is ok and usually they are, I did another video once showing the horrible noise made by a dying bearing, you just work around the hub and bearing normally without any issues.

Parts are generally cheap, the process on the grande and evo is very similar to above. My current evo has rear discs so while I intend to change them soon I wonít be making a video thatís helpful to people with drum brakes.... sorry
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