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Old 28-07-2013   #16
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Re: Insufficient Oil Pressure during cold start

Hi G78K,

Thank for your opinion. Yes for the moment it is not at all dramatic, but less quick as your.
For the noise it is gone in two secondes yes, lubrication should be good.
Never had warning light/message.

I dont know which oil is in it, it is still the orignal oil.

Here is my video, can't edit my previous post, why ? Had done a mistake with the link :

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Hi Mkala,

Yes I have seen the video. Looks acceptable to me, but in case it gets worse, there is nothing worry as I believe your car is quite new and hence under warranty.

If you turn off the engine and immediately restart, does the light takes a shorter time to go off?

Original oil as stated in the owner's manual should be Selenia K 5w40 if I remember correctly.

As you are in Switzerland, and approaching winter in a few months time, I do not know if there's a need to change your oil to maybe a 0w30 or 0w40 for better start up flow during freezing temperatures. My country has no winter, it's hot throughout the year, hence I'm not familiar with this, perhaps you could check with the dealership?
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Hi
Thanks for this.
My 2012 1.4 is doing the same if i leave it for a day or more. Dealer here i come.
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Hi Mkala,

Yes I have seen the video. Looks acceptable to me, but in case it gets worse, there is nothing worry as I believe your car is quite new and hence under warranty.

If you turn off the engine and immediately restart, does the light takes a shorter time to go off?

Original oil as stated in the owner's manual should be Selenia K 5w40 if I remember correctly.

As you are in Switzerland, and approaching winter in a few months time, I do not know if there's a need to change your oil to maybe a 0w30 or 0w40 for better start up flow during freezing temperatures. My country has no winter, it's hot throughout the year, hence I'm not familiar with this, perhaps you could check with the dealership?
Hi G78K,
Thanks for your reply. Yes under warranty for still one year.

If I turn off and then on, no sound, light is quite instantly off.
It happen when I leave it for a "long time" (more than 1 day), especially when it is hot weather. I think oil is more fluid and the oil intake drain out to the oil pan.

Yes here we use 0w40 oil. It assure au good cold lubrication, even in winter and a good hot lubrication whem car hot / in summer.
I have checked the level and I am above the middle. I will try to top it to the max to see if the pressure come more quickly.

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Hi
Thanks for this.
My 2012 1.4 is doing the same if i leave it for a day or more. Dealer here i come.
Keep us informed
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Hi
Thanks for this.
My 2012 1.4 is doing the same if i leave it for a day or more. Dealer here i come.
Hi hennabm,

Good luck in having it fixed. Let us know if it's the same issue.

My start up oil pressure has been instant ever since I got it fixed.
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Re: Insufficient Oil Pressure during cold start

Hi

Well the first part has been painless.
I have booked the car into the dealer. The mechanic will come to my house next Tuesday to listen to the car start up. From there we will discuss the way forward ie next steps and book it into the workshop for what they decide.
I assume it will be a full oil pressure check before deciding what to do.

We'll wait and see
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Ah well - that didn't last long.

After coming and checking the car at my house, the technician left to say he would be in touch with Fiat and call me back.

Never happened. So I visited them yesterday and the car is now booked in for an oil pressure check on Thursday. They wanted it all day but in the end it's only the afternoon it's going in for.

Will keep you posted.
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ok , but if you dont leave the car for a day I think you will not see the pressure problem ?
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The pressure problem has been witnessed by the technician when he visited. The fact that he puts a gauge on it when cold will show no more than them listening to it when it starts up and rattles.
I can't see how the pressure test will isolate what the actual problem is? For example, will it show it being the pump or a worn bearing or a blockage somewhere?
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Ok perfect, excuse me I misunderstand. If he has seen the pressure problem, it's alright for the diagnostic.

Do you know which values he has read and what they should be ?
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Hi hennabm,

I thought my bearings would be destroyed by my oil pressure issues, but no. Once the issues had been fixed, bearings sound perfectly fine.

Well readings aside, I guess sooner or later they just have to drop the oil pan to have a visual inspection of what's going on inside.

By the way, check out the factory gasket sealant on the oil pan when they remove the pan. Mine was pretty horrible with excess sealant all over the place. If one of those pieces fall off and gets lodged in those oil ways or tubes, it can be pretty disastrous too.
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Hi all

I've been to the dealer today and they conducted a pressure check. Based on the figures from eper of 4.2bar @ 4000rpm, the figures weren't encouraging.

The best my car could manage were 2.9/3.0bar @4000rpm.
Idle pressure was OK at around 0.9bar.

The dealer is now contacting Fiat to see what happens next
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Quite low :/

Hope they can fix this quickly.
Do you hear the engine make a strange noise ? Or nothing visible, apart the oil light at start ?
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Hi Mkala

Yes on start up when left for several days the bearings are dry and the engine rattles and knocks. The oil light takes 2 - 5 seconds to go out as well.
If left for only a day or less then there is no problem.
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hi hennabm,

Thanks for your reply.
Okay it is not possible to not realize if we have this problem...
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