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Out of curiosity, what engine have you got? And to be honest, if you can get 25BHP for 25, wouldn't everyone be running them? I'd avoid.

Also, I'm pretty sure those products have been covered in the punto MK2 section, with a very convincing avoid attitude to those
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Petrol or Diesel?
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Run run run run... far far away of these pieces of sh** !

To be a bit more precise, you have :

Naturaly aspired engines. You could NEVER gain 25 bhp on NA engine with a chip / ECU flash / ECU tune up (or you have a 5.6L engine)

Turbo engine. All what a piggy back can do is alter the signal to deliver false informations to ECU. It's mean that you fine tuned stock ECU will rely on erroneous informations.
For exemple your ECU will believe that you have 1.2 bar of boost pressure, and you have in fact 1.5 bar. BUT until the short fuel term trim correct it via the value of the oxygen sensor, your engine will run in poor condition, with risk of breaking.

The ONLY thing you can do with a turbo engine is to take you car on a dyno in a professional tuning shop and do a new map within the security level you choose with him.

With 25 the best thing you can do to have fun when driving is rent a go kart for 20 minutes
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There is a reputable company doing remaps with a similar name in the Rochdale area.
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this 1st one will be a 5 pence resistor stay away

2nd will be a 2 variable resistor, also known as a volume control
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Re: performance chips

Thanks for the responses chaps.

I've got the 1.4 petrol 77 BHP one. It's not the multi air one.

Can someone tell me about the remapping stuff? How does it work? Does it affect your insurance? Does it shorten the life of your engine?
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Don't think remapping on its own will be worth it in your case. Back in the day I had gsr induction kit and remap on a 1.4 16v and it made 120bhp that really did make a difference if your interested in doing this would think you would be able to reach about 90bhp.

Insurance wise with the admiral group they have loads of options regarding performance upgrades and end up costing not that much more.

Will only shorten engine life if your going to keep using full power all the time just like in any car.
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To make a remap cost effective, you've really got to modify it first: exhaust, exhaust manifold, cams, porting, etc.

The process then is pretty much identical to setting up an aftermarket ECU on a rolling road.

So, if there are no changes which affect the fuelling needs of the car, you'll only be looking at an expensive 5% or so power gain at best -- you might just feel the difference, but only just.

Turbos are different, in that you can simply turn the boost up, increase the fuelling, etc. but this is a nasty way of getting more power from a turbo (really need to look at a bigger turbo, strengthening internals, etc.).
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For a remap you looking at at least 200 notes (If they can find the right machine to read it from ~ 2012+ models)

If you are serious about it I would first look at getting these bits:

- Induction Kit (modified with larger filter and cold air feed)
- Ported and Gasflowed head very basic flowing with a slight skim (C.R. 9.6:1)
- Supersprint 4-2-1 Stainless manifold (heat wrapped to reduce losses)
- B&M sports catalyst (stainless monolith @ 200cpsi)
- Peco full stainless system
- NGK iridium plugs
- 8.5mm Magnecor leads

When you find out how much that is going to cost you, you'll soon realize it is cheaper just to buy a faster car, buy if you want to build up little by little by all means go ahead...

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When you find out how much that is going to cost you, you'll soon realize it is cheaper just to buy a faster car, buy if you want to build up little by little by all means go ahead...

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This is exactly what I think. For half that price, you could afford the 1.4 16V 105BHP, in bonus you get the 6 gearbox and better brakes (larger front disc IIRC and rear discs instead drums).

Tuning a car for performance is only interesant when you already have the more powerfull model.
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Thanks for the responses chaps.

I've got the 1.4 petrol 77 BHP one. It's not the multi air one.

Can someone tell me about the remapping stuff? How does it work? Does it affect your insurance? Does it shorten the life of your engine?
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