Ooops meant to mention this too. Gone for alloys on my new Evo but that means I can't order a spare wheel from the factory due to the alloys & non-alloys being different sizes.

The salesman said he will try and get one for me by other means - the difference in size is only 1 inch. Anyone got any thoughts on whether it's a good idea to use a wrong size wheel if I'm ever in an emergency situation?

The handbook lists the steel 175-65-15 as an acceptable spare

Yes, that's the size I got with my sporting. Most cars these days have space savers rated at 30mph, hardly the same size as the wheels! As long as it's the same rolling radius as the tyres on the car it's fine.

Cheers guys. Marcos, did you manage to order one as an extra when you placed your order for the car or did you have to get one by other means?

I got told in the showroom that the factory won't supply a spare when it's a different size to those being built on to the car.

well if push comes to shove....


http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=2817&sku=7108


http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop....sort_by=preis&Transport=P&dsco=110&sowigan=So


then a jack and brace..


failing that check e-bay


since the dealer offered me bottom book price for my Blue GP i kind of left my spare and tool kit at home when i had the car valued/ part'exed

That's a new one to me, although I'm not clued up on the latest Evo's back when I bought mine (2010) a spare steel wheel was available on all models for £50.

Yeah there's a size difference, but it's only men't to get you to the nearest garage to be patched & once you use that space saver goo its an instant write off for the tyre.

I'd fight for steel wheel, but if not I'm sure (like above) you can get a steel wheel on the cheap.

Cheers guys , I may well have to buy wheel and tyre as separates then but will keep on at the dealer as it's only £40 as an optional extra by doing it that way!

check the likes of e-bay


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Gran...ar_Wheels_ET&hash=item4aae446260#ht_629wt_932

i'd get those and get 4 winter tyres and sling one in the boot as a spare

even wander into the dealer workshop one sat morning and ask the mechanics if they have any wheels from cars they put alloys on for a few beer tokens

you must get a GP wheel though as they are different to the other fiat wheels in terms of bolt spacing

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-faqs/125361-pcd-cener-hole-bore.html

I ticked the spare wheel on the options list wen I specced the car. It was £35 which I suppose isn't bad considering it has a Bridgestone Potenza on it.

i managed to get hold of a spare wheel, brace and jack from a fiat grande punto although only a 15 inch compared to my 16 inch alloys, but have the same rolling circumfrance so no problem with speed have a look on ebay you may get the whole lot fairly cheap

load of ball cocks.

a 14inch steel wheel for a car which can get 17inch alloys will both have the same rolling radius. they run the same running gears etc so they will as the clocks would be out. ive got 17s aftermarket alloys, and my 14 inch steel is exact same size rolling radius.

tom555tom said:

load of ball cocks.

a 14inch steel wheel for a car which can get 17inch alloys will both have the same rolling radius. they run the same running gears etc so they will as the clocks would be out. ive got 17s aftermarket alloys, and my 14 inch steel is exact same size rolling radius.

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Not sure what you're getting at, the size of the wheel has nothing to do with it, it's the outer circumference of the tyres you put on them which has to be the same.

Hmmm how I do tell when looking on eBay what the outer circumference of the tyre is? Am I missing something? Lol.

your missing something ;-)


the handbook lists the spare as a 175-65-R15 84T on a steel rim......


thats all that will be needed (also its in spec of the car so if you have a bump when its fitted you should be ok insurance wise as its to manufacturers specification)

Andy Monty said:

your missing something ;-)


the handbook lists the spare as a 175-65-R15 84T on a steel rim......


thats all that will be needed (also its in spec of the car so if you have a bump when its fitted you should be ok insurance wise as its to manufacturers specification)

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Cheers andy - sorry but which bit refers to the "rolling radius" as it's called. I think the 175 relates to the width only and the 15 relates to the size of the wheel that the tyre fits on... But I can't fathom what tells me the rolling radius!

Paulfinlay29 said:

Cheers andy - sorry but which bit refers to the "rolling radius" as it's called. I think the 175 relates to the width only and the 15 relates to the size of the wheel that the tyre fits on... But I can't fathom what tells me the rolling radius!

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yep, 175 is the width in mm and 15 is the circumference in inches. 65 refers to the size of the sidewall. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking this is also in mm, it isn't, it is the percentage of the width which in this case is 65% of 175mm which is 114mm (more or less).

To get the circumference of the tyre we work out the diameter which is 114x2=228 (two sidewalls) adding 381 (15 inches in mm) which is 609mm multiplied by Pi (3.14) which is 1912mm. Basically if the diameter is the of two tyres are the same the the circumference will be. Here is a calculator that does the math for you.

thanks marcos, that should be a great help. sorry for taking so long as well.

in case anyone else is in a similar position to me this might be handy to know...

despite the "optional extra" price of a spare wheel being only £40 when you buy a new Punto Evo, if you try and buy from Fiats parts department separately you are looking at £200, including the jack kit (but NOT including a tyre!!!). the dealer suggested i try ebay and advised that the wheels on the Grande are the same size as the Evo.

now, i was a still a bit confused at this point as I'd assumed that the spare would have to be a space saver seeing as both my 1997 & 2004 puntos both came with space-savers in the boot. but NO! the dealer showed me the boot of an Evo yesterday and the space inside is made for a FULL SIZE wheel.

came home and found/bought a Grande wheel on ebay including tyre (and delivery) for only £50 so much better deal. Used the calulator that Marcos provided and its absolutely brilliant, told me Ive got a discrepanacy of -1.95% but thats within the 2.5% that it recommends so not a problem (i assume its not a direct size match cos my Evo has got 16" alloys on it)

Glad to be of help.