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Old 01-02-2011   #31
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

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I'm still being fussy and complaining about it still. I don't know of any other cars that have this, I could be wrong but still.

I never bought my car with the added condensation option !

Completely agree. I've never known a car where it's normal to have mist in the lights. Why design the EVOs rear lights so swish with led strips and not mist proof them so you cant even see that nice design?
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I used to get condensation in the front lights of my Ford Puma, as did alot of owners. The fix back then was to drill a couple of small holes into the bottom of the lens, a bit drastic perhaps, but it seemed to work.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Update.
As posted my 1.4 GP had permanent condensation in the offside cluster.
In fact had got worse since Xmas with water collecting in it.
Finally got around to booking it in this week, cluster is totally U/S and they have ordered a new unit which should be in this week.
Hopefully this will sort it out.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Only had my car since Monday and my both of my rear lights are steaming up! Not happy but going to call the dealer by the end of the week!
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Well ill update my self again.

I went back to the dealer to let them try to fix it for the 4th time. They said they modified by adding their "own" extra membrane. I thought great fixed. Next day, their fix did nothing. So I went straight back, they said well they can't fix something that is a problem because of fiats bad design.

So again I said I did not buy the car for this condensation feature and that it shouldn't be there. So he told me to ring fiat, which I was annoyed about. They are "looking" into and I should hear a phone call this week.

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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I had the rear clusters changed but they still get condensation in them. To be honest it's not such a big problem that if Fiat can't sort it I'm not going to want the car so I'll wait until they have a definite fix then contact them.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

New to forum. My new Punto Evo already been in once for 'fix' to rear light clusters which fogged up regularly. Now waiting to hear on replacement of light clusters. Waiting 2 weeks so far ! Today noticed that there is a good deal of rainwater around rubber seals of boot....I've had 3 puntos before this and not had any of these probems. Shocking. So much for evolution !
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Car was in yesterday to replace offside unit.
Bright and sunny 8c here at the moment, just popped out and checked the car, what a surprise, condensation in the new unit.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Went to have a look at mine this morning and atleast 50% of the unit has condentastion in with droplets as well! Car is only 13 days old
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS PROBLEM ON MY 2010 EVO FOR 5 MONTHS NOW ALONG WITH THE ENGINE CRACKLING ON SART UP IVE BEEN TO DEALER THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICES INITALLY AND NOW SPEAKING TO HEAD OFFICE .TRYING TO GET HOLD OF THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF FIAT UK AS IT IS DISGUSTING . I HAVE HAD NO JOY THOUGH AND FIAT (THE COMPANY ) DONT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SO I WOULDNT HOLD YOR BREATH ABOUT GETTING THEM FIXED IVE HAD NEW ONES THEY STEAMED UP 3 DAYS LATER FIAT SAY THATS THE DESIGN. iTS A SHAME BECAUSE I RATED FIAT FOR MANY YEARS BUT NOW I WILL BE CHANGING IT FOR A FORD VW OR OTHER . i WOULD LIKE TO URGE AS MANY OF YOU AS POSSIBLE TO SEND A RECORDED DELIVERY LETTER TO

ANDREW HUMBERSTONE
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THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THESE PROBLEMS WILL GET RESOLVED ALSO MARK ON YOU ENVOLOPE CLEARLY THAT THE LETTER IS FOR HIM ONLY AND NOT TO BE SENT TO CUSTOMER SERVICES IN ITALY.

GOOD LUCK

I PEROSNALLY AM NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL I GET MY CAR REPLACED OR RESOLVED I JUST HOPE MORE OF YOU WLL DO THE SAME.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I am the same, I have complained to dealer, complained to fiat.

My repsone from fiat was basically and thsi is no joke. " I ahve spoken to the tech guys and they do not know how to fix this problem as of yet, but we will find a solution and get back to you".

So im gonna go to dealer and sort it out.
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I don't doubt the annoyance of the problems, i had a Renault Clio which was a pain in the ar*e from new, but would you rather Fiat say 'take it into a dealership' & then end up with new lights fitted that also steam-up, or be told 'we don't yet know how to fix the problem'.

If they don't yet know, then by all means keep on their case, but let them work out a fix. At least theyre being honest if nothing else.

The Punto Evo is probably the worst made Fiat in the whole range at present - there's hardly any on the roads compared to Pandas & 500's, yet this forum seems to have more Evo problems than any other current model. Strangely, the Evo is produced in the same factory as the (also problematic) Grande Punto. This factory only builds the Punto, no other (better built) models.

Maybe it should be stressed in your letters to Fiat UK that you believe there are problems at the factory. That's what i think alot of the problems can be blamed on, like missing switches & the numerous mis-builds that people have reported. Fiats MD in Italy would be very interested to hear this i'm sure, as he's already stated that other Countries build Fiat's better & far quicker than the Italian plants. Shame theyre moving production of the next Panda to Italy from Poland
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Well, I have done what the dealer has told me to do. I tell him I have a problem with the car, he tries to fix it 4 times, and fiat even sent out their own guy on one attempt. My dealer then told me to complain to fiat, which I told him would be pointless but ill do it. And after they get back to me with a pointless response, which they have, ill be back to him.

But I am 100% gonna keep on their case, because its a fault and I do not want to buy a faulty car.



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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

I wonder what percentage of Evos actually have this fault. My 2010 Multiair GP has not had this problem, so is it a design fault or a maufacturing fault? I don't agree that the Evo is Fiat's worst made model. I had an 8V Dynamic Evo which I liked except for the poor high speed cruising performance so I traded it in for a Bravo T-Jet 120 which was brilliant mechanically but the symphony of rattles, squeeks and creaks simply drove me nuts, not to mention the clonky front suspension (mentioned frequently in the forums) so I got another Evo but with the Multiair engine which along with the 6 speed gearbox makes for more refined cruising. And guess what.... no rattles or creaks!!!!!! I'm happy
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Re: Condensation in both rear light clusters!

Im afraid i can't agree with you on the Evo, i do think it's Fiats poorest built car at the moment, but i'm very glad you've had no issue with your two as i am a Fiat fan & don't like to see them churning out stuff that could be better.

Where i do agree with you is to question whether it's a design fault or manufacturing fault. I think most of the Evo's issues are down to careless manufacture. If it was all down to poor design then i'd have thought all new Fiats would have similar problems.

I'd have thought the rear light trouble must have something to do with manufacture of something else on the car. It could be a faulty batch of lights but if that was the case then i'd think replacements wouldn't also be getting condensation. Maybe a vent in the bodywork is missing on some examples, or maybe the space for the lights isn't quite right on some models, so they can't 'breathe' properly
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