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Re: Punto Evo Sporting - Steering Problem?

Regarding the steering - took it to the garage this morning, but unfortunately couldn't repeat the problem with the mechanic sitting in the car - even after 10 minutes of going backwards and forwards turning the wheel

Had them put it up on the lift and got them to check it over, but everything apparently checked out normal.

Can't say it's really bothering me yet, but at least its been looked over. The fact other people are experiencing it must mean its kind of a design issue common to this model ?
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Does that mean then if your driving normally that the turbo doesn't do anything thus doesn't get overly warm?
Not entirely sure, but I can say the turbo display shows it works a little most of the time, sometimes when at constant speed up a hill the turbo slowly starts to fill up a little. Looks to me like it uses the turbo all the time but mostly only a little. But I doubt that activity is enough to make it too hot.
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Quote Originally Posted by ntparsons View Post
Regarding the steering - took it to the garage this morning, but unfortunately couldn't repeat the problem with the mechanic sitting in the car - even after 10 minutes of going backwards and forwards turning the wheel

Had them put it up on the lift and got them to check it over, but everything apparently checked out normal.

Can't say it's really bothering me yet, but at least its been looked over. The fact other people are experiencing it must mean its kind of a design issue common to this model ?
That's typical, isn't it? Probably too early to see any "possible" damage that might be occuring, assuming we've all not driven that many miles.

I must say mine only seems to make the noise when reversing on full lock. Oh well..
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Its good advice not to boot it until the temps are up and let the turbo cool...

Although I do use boost and part throttle when cold, I never use full throttle, and ALWAYS let it cool by driving gently for the last few miles to my destination...

I have an 07 1.9 sporting (not an evo, but the theorys are the same!) , had it since new, and had it mapped at 4k, its now 98,000 miles, and the original turbo is still as good as new

note: although I have checked it, i've never had to top it up with oil, I'm a big believer in running it in by driving it normally, and not babying it...
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I have an 07 1.9 sporting (not an evo, but the theorys are the same!) , had it since new, and had it mapped at 4k, its now 98,000 miles, and the original turbo is still as good as new

Gees 98 000 on a 3 year old car you must really enjoy driving it lol.

note: although I have checked it, i've never had to top it up with oil, I'm a big believer in running it in by driving it normally, and not babying it...
Exactly whats the point of buying a car to be afraid to drive it?
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Well no one else I have spoken to seems to have ever heard of this so dunno. I doubt I will be sitting in the car for a few minutes every time I stop it.
You dont have to, but it pays to read other peoples Posts...

Just drive "off-turbo" for a few minutes before you arrive home..

But then it's your car to do with as you wish, speaking as a GPS owner for the last 4 years I have had no problems at all & I treat my car to good doses of common sense & just a bit more sympathy...
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Exactly whats the point of buying a car to be afraid to drive it?
Sharkey isnt afraid to drive it (98,000 miles...)

If you drive within the Law it's hard to abuse a car... however if you think you're Jensen Button that might be different.

Warming down a turbo applies to all turbo equipped cars... ignore it at your peril, imagine the turbo spinning up at almost 100,000 RPM and you effectively cutting off the oil supply... Job Done.
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Sharkey isnt afraid to drive it (98,000 miles...)

If you drive within the Law it's hard to abuse a car... however if you think you're Jensen Button that might be different.

Warming down a turbo applies to all turbo equipped cars... ignore it at your peril, imagine the turbo spinning up at almost 100,000 RPM and you effectively cutting off the oil supply... Job Done.
lol./... indeed... mine goes to track days, hired airfield ect, not to mention car meets where we drive, er lets say "briskly" .... just a little mechanical sympathy is all thats required
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Something ive not heard of but obviously interested in reading, By idling do you mean engine running, Or key still in ignition but engine stopped? Sorry to have to ask
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Something ive not heard of but obviously interested in reading, By idling do you mean engine running, Or key still in ignition but engine stopped? Sorry to have to ask
On most other cars with a turbo, "idling" means leaving the engine to run on while you have stopped, not just leaving the key in. The engine must be running. This lets the engine cool the turbo blades and parts down, avoiding damage.

The problem is the Puntos start&stop feature. Does it keep all the cooling running when the engine stops? Nobody I've spoken to, really knows for sure. My dealer said he thought it probably did, but even he couldn't give me a straight answer.

My guess is, it probably does. But I could also see this being an obvious oversite by Fiat.

Personally, until I get it confirmed 100%, I avoid letting the start&stop kick in.
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Good to know, Thanks for the info. I'll certainly ask the technician when mine arrives.
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Re: Punto Evo Sporting - Steering Problem?

Just to follow up my original posting - the knocking sound that I originally noticed seems to have stopped now. Perhaps something needed bedding in. Or fell off.

I'd be very interested to know what the technicians say about start&stop and the turbo too.
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