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Re: OH NO! Engine management light (and interior trim issues)

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I also have the same issue with the cubby hole,, some times it closes to the left overlapping the trim,, but a push to the side sorts it,, not sure if i should get it seen to,, not really a major prob but a nice we place to keep my USB stick.
Thats the one.

I sense a recall , has everyone had this problem so far then?

Take it back, tell them it doesnt close square and we've all had the same problem.... trust me, it feels like a cheap crappy little cubby hole now but once its hooked up properly it feels just like the rest of the car quality wise, closed well, feels strong etc.
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This makes it even more odd to me. They go to the effort of redesigning the vent, but failed to address one of the most common (albeit minor) issues that effected the Grande Punto.
Although its a known issue here the vent problem might not be a issue elsewhere.....like springs breaking on many Fiat models here but nowhere else therefore its not a priority however I think even aliens on mars known about the GP dash trim issue!

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I also have the same issue with the cubby hole,,
is it the spring behind the cubby hole thats giving the problem?
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Thats the one.

I sense a recall , has everyone had this problem so far then?

Take it back, tell them it doesnt close square and we've all had the same problem.... trust me, it feels like a cheap crappy little cubby hole now but once its hooked up properly it feels just like the rest of the car quality wise, closed well, feels strong etc.
Sadly a recall is only likely if safety was compromised. However, they MIGHT (if theyre really on the ball) issue a service update thingy, so all Evo's get the part modernised when theyre in for other work.


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Although its a known issue here the vent problem might not be a issue elsewhere.....like springs breaking on many Fiat models here but nowhere else therefore its not a priority however I think even aliens on mars known about the GP dash trim issue!
I didn't realise the spring snappage was mostly just the UK. Mind you, i suspect we have the biggest craters in Europe along our roads, so it makes sence. The trim thing just baffles me - it's almost a wasted trip to the dealers just to get that stuck back down. At least if something major breaks you get your moneys worth outta the fuel to get to the dealers!
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is it the spring behind the cubby hole thats giving the problem?
Theres a spring??

Closer look on the cards i think,, im guessing theres a plug behind here like in the Gp for servicing & the like,, does the PDI require hook up?

Maybe the mechanic never put it back together properly.
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Mind you, i suspect we have the biggest craters in Europe along our roads
better roads in peru than here mate!
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I also have the same issue with the cubby hole,, some times it closes to the left overlapping the trim,, but a push to the side sorts it,, not sure if i should get it seen to,, not really a major prob but a nice we place to keep my USB stick.
I've just used my cubby hole thing for the first time and when i cam to close it, it seems i have the same problem as everyone else! It's a great storage area, albeit a bit small, but i'm a bit disappointed with it being a bit flimsy. Mine is going in for Parking Sensor warning light coming on intermittently so i'll get them to look at that whilst it's in!
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Blank2k2 when you got the cubby hole cover replaced was it physically a different part to the original that broke? Or was it just the same that fitted better? Getting mine on Wednesday and if its not very good will drive right over to the service area and get them to order a new one.
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Blank2k2 when you got the cubby hole cover replaced was it physically a different part to the original that broke? Or was it just the same that fitted better? Getting mine on Wednesday and if its not very good will drive right over to the service area and get them to order a new one.
Same part, just "the mechanic rehooked the cubby hole cover"

I was quite surprised by how much better it was, originally a flexy bit of crap quality plastic feeling junk... rehooked the door on its hinge & it transforms into a fairly sturdy quality feeling bit of kit
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Same part, just "the mechanic rehooked the cubby hole cover"

I was quite surprised by how much better it was, originally a flexy bit of crap quality plastic feeling junk... rehooked the door on its hinge & it transforms into a fairly sturdy quality feeling bit of kit
I tried to rehook it myself but realised the threading on the hook was already duff, so it didn't work
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I've just used my cubby hole thing for the first time and when i cam to close it, it seems i have the same problem as everyone else! It's a great storage area, albeit a bit small, but i'm a bit disappointed with it being a bit flimsy. Mine is going in for Parking Sensor warning light coming on intermittently so i'll get them to look at that whilst it's in!
Any photo's and specs of your car?
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better roads in peru than here mate!
After my drive into town the other night that made me feel like i was off roading in my parents Laguna, which is as comfy as an armchair usually, i am inclined to agree!
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I think my new cars suspension has already aged more than an original Fait 500 from the 70's in Italy lol
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no kidding, im evading potholes & road curruption like buggery but its an almost impossible task... or at least, not possible without being pulled over and being breathalysed.

suspension on the Evo is brilliant, irons out potholes etc brilliantly, much better than other cars i can think of that cost more... but i do wonder how much abuse it can take before i start feeling them, or developing a rattle.
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So true! Our Laguna is still smooth riding but the rear suspension clunks like mad over bumps now. It doesn't help that where we live, pretty much all of our local journeys are on roads managed by the local council rather than on major A roads & Motorways (managed by the Highways Agency), which are much less damaged, but the way it clunks over bumps now makes me quite angry because i'm sure it's mostly down to the pi*s poor roads it has to endure.

I did wonder if some areas of the Country mightve been better than others, but since all 3 of us are in different Counties, this looks unlikely!

Also, do you guys find that even when a road is pretty much wrecked, all they do is patch it? That's what we seem to get here at the moment, and the patches are so poor that you get almost as bad-a-bump going over the uneven patch as you did going over the pothole! Saturday night when i went into town was lethal with all the puddles. I wasn't sure which was just water & which had craters lurking beneath, so i was also driving like i was pis*ed

Hope the Evo got some good testing on that special bit of road that Fiat/Alfa developed for UK testing!
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So true! Our Laguna is still smooth riding but the rear suspension clunks like mad over bumps now. It doesn't help that where we live, pretty much all of our local journeys are on roads managed by the local council rather than on major A roads & Motorways (managed by the Highways Agency), which are much less damaged, but the way it clunks over bumps now makes me quite angry because i'm sure it's mostly down to the pi*s poor roads it has to endure.

I did wonder if some areas of the Country mightve been better than others, but since all 3 of us are in different Counties, this looks unlikely!

Also, do you guys find that even when a road is pretty much wrecked, all they do is patch it? That's what we seem to get here at the moment, and the patches are so poor that you get almost as bad-a-bump going over the uneven patch as you did going over the pothole! Saturday night when i went into town was lethal with all the puddles. I wasn't sure which was just water & which had craters lurking beneath, so i was also driving like i was pis*ed

Hope the Evo got some good testing on that special bit of road that Fiat/Alfa developed for UK testing!
Yep, crater appears in middle of the road so they throw abit of filler in, then the next time there's very cold or very hot weather it cracks up & leaves an even bigger hole.

There's a dual carriageway near me with a 100 yards of "scar" effect down the middle of the road going right down to the base, been like that since the cold weather we had a few months ago.... and because the middles turfed up the surroundings are also cracking up so its slowly getting wider, its interesting to see how long they'll wait before doing anything.

Currently its like a rally course at, pretty sure it could kill a motorbike if they didnt notice (night etc).... just wait for someone to be killed then they'll decide they need to put piggy banks ("safety" cameras) on the road.
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