To every one thanks for the help you have given me and others who have had problems with their new cars. Without forums like this the car dealers would have an easy life lol.

merry christmas and happy new year.
All the best
james and family

If only the car dealers checked the forums as well, and knew and understood what they were selling!!!!
However, when Fiat UK phoned me recently about a long email I had sent them [complaints, niggles, usual garb], one of their 'advisors' had reams and reams of paper in front of him from this forum. Hmmm....

Stu