Seen as tomorrow is the big referendum on the Voting System in the UK, just wondered which way people are thinking. Obviously i know that voting is supposed to be anonymous but lets have a mini referendum on here
As I understand (and I'm happy to be corrected) the tories agreed to a vote to get the liberals into a coalition. I will be voting against the change, but it will make no difference the goverment will always get in.If the Tories are so against AV surely David Cameron should stand down?
As someone on my Facebook said "I'm not even sure which voting system is best... but I know that if the Tories are against AV ... it must be fair and just.."
Yeah.. very apt... but I know that if the Tories are against AV ... it must be fair and just.."
(Lib-Dems will most likely self destruct as a party)
what makes you say that? I think the coallition is pretty stable now tbh, and why would a NO vote victory cause the lib-dems to self destruct? there sharing the power, more than they have ever had, I think itl just carry on as it is now.Yeah.. very apt
A YES win will certainly hurt Cameron (possible defect to the Lib-Dems if the Tory elders kick him out at the end of the term) but it should at least provide a stable coalition.
A NO win could conceivably bring down the government fairly quickly (Lib-Dems will most likely self destruct as a party) - and although that may well let Labour back in - it would be a massive disaster for the country as a whole
Tbh though, isnt a genuine democracy an idea, rather than an actaul possible thing? The communists believed 'everyone equal' would work, but that needed a leader, and the leaders were dictators, who made everyone not equal, that was another decent theory, which is idealogic, but not possible. how can anyone live in a true democracy in this day and age, when you cant say this, cant do this, cant offend these people? a true democracy is where everyone is free to say/do as they wish, which with todays EU laws, just isnt possibleUK has an elected dictatorship where only a small %age of voters get any say the results. Safe seats on both sides see to that. Once voted in, the leading party can do what they like. Its a Victorian system that's never moved on with the times. It leads to idiot ideas like Poll Tax and lax financial management that allowed the banks to get too big.
AV is a small step in a directions of more genuine democracy. Hopefully it wont get thrown out by folks who believe the old guard's scare mongering.
A little short sighted though don't you think.Good, I would vote no just to see that happen.
The problem is that many liberals aren't at all happy working with the Tories (all the bad press on cuts and everything ).what makes you say that? I think the coallition is pretty stable now tbh, and why would a NO vote victory cause the lib-dems to self destruct? there sharing the power, more than they have ever had, I think itl just carry on as it is now.
In that post yes, it was.A little short sighted though don't you think.
Hypocrites! Our local GP candidate publishes a magazine which is delivered to every house in our postcode wether you want it or not. Not exactly environmentally friendly.Green party, the environmentalists love them,
bit late now but what happens if you dont pick a second choice, is your vote canceled?
AV is not proportional though (like STV) so it wouldn't have made a major change - just resolved tactical voting.As we already have a version of this over here for our elections (single transferrable vote) I say no, else every idiot gets in (we use it for council and assembly elections).
just counts the same as now although not sure what happens if you put an "X" instead of "1"bit late now but what happens if you dont pick a second choice, is your vote canceled?
The cost argument has been accepted as made up by the NO campaign.I voted no, just because I think that the amount of money it would cost to change the system could be better spent elsewhere . . . on equipment for the armed forces for example.
Or getting rid of all the potholes