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Technical Tool to remove breather hose from engine cover

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Hi All Another thread. Every step of every job I take on seems to result in multiple questions! Sigh

I want to remove the engine cover on Fiat Panda 2011 1.2 petrol.
There is a hose attached to it and tightened on with a metal clasp as per the pic. I have a tool which I thought would work (Pic 2 ) but it does seem to and i don't want to force it incase I break something else!

What tool should be used to remove this fastener ?
 

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Yes, exactly what Jimboy said. There are special tools you can buy that will remove and replace these clips but I've got a box of various sized jubilee clips that I replace them with as I cut them off.

Get yourself something like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/91-Pcs-A...With-No-Driver-Jubilee-Clips-Set/392792866532

Or get on the screwfix / toolstation website and do a click and collect.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails-fixings/hose-tool-clips/cat840130

https://www.toolstation.com/screws-fixings/clips/c384
 
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You need one of these tools to tighten a new one:
https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/pliers-and-wrenches/laser-hose-clip-pliers-696807.html?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools%3EHand+Tools%3EPliers+and+Wrenches-_-Tools%3EHand+Tools%3EPliers+&+Wrenches-_-696807&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istFeedId=62b447cf-331e-4fec-a47a-9985ff72d404&istItemId=mpmxm&istBid=tzxr&_$ja=tsid:94971|cid:8979078227|agid:94446562287|tid:pla-331463655598|crid:412800844943|nw:g|rnd:301655397858027362|dvc:c|adp:|mt:|loc:1007082&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn_64oZfa7AIVSrDtCh0obQYgEAQYBCABEgKALvD_BwE

But as others have said, save the money and use jubilee clips. I understand that the type of clips used give a more even pressure but I also believe that they are quicker to fit at the factory than jubilee clips which is probably more important to the manufacturer.
 
I went to Halfords but they didn't have in stock Soo annoying
I'll order jubilee clips from screwfix
 
I really wouldn't worry about the tool/clip, just make sure you don't overtighten the jubilee clip.
last one I removed before I got the tool (for another car) I think I used a small screwdriver to prise the clip bit apart.
If you are near Solihull I'd be happy for you to borrow my one.
 
Absolutely agree. Just prise apart, throw in the bin and fit a screwed clip. The other big advantage to replacing with a Jubilee type screwed clip is that you can dismantle them and check inside the breather hoses at service time. Why? because, especially in cold weather or if you do shorter trips, breather hoses are prone to gumming up with emulsified gunge.

Ps. I do this with radiator hoses too. I find it easier to do this and pull a bottom hose off in the "traditional" way rather than risk breaking one of the "clever" plastic couplings.
 
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Caterman said:
You need one of these tools to tighten a new one:

Hate to say ha ha. But I bought an identical tool branded US ProTools from a firm in somerset for £3.50 about a month ago. (eBay) Its extremely well made and make removal of most of these clips a cinch. However I agree that on the bottom hose don't touch the quick release fitting remove the clip and slip the hose itself off the outlet. I have to confess that due to the awkward location I have changed my hose clip for a jubilee clip too. I used the quick release fitting and then had to replace it and,the hose as it would not reseal after removal to drain the water.
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Those clips are call Clic R and modern cars are full of them.

You can lever open the end of the clip with a screwdriver, where it hooks over and remove them easily, but you really need those special pliers to refit.

As already mentioned, just remove and fit a jubilee clip, do the same with the other end of the same hose, to the engine.
Then next time it you take the airbox off, undo the engine end (and pull the smaller pipe off the throttle body as mentioned in your other post) as these ends are more accessable than the ends tucked up under the airbox.
 
DaveMcT said:
Be careful what Jubillee (worm drive) clip you use. If they are too big the clamp will go D shape. If you have two potential sizes, get the smaller one.
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Actually there's no reason why the breathers need to be clamped, providing the pipes are a good fit on the spigots. Unless you've got a seriously worn engine, the pressure in these pipes isn't great, and I'd be very surprised if you'd get any significant leakage from an unclamped breather.

In days past, when the current classic cars were new, the breathers were seldom clamped.

I put mine to one side (the hose clips, not the breathers!) the first time I serviced the car. Just leaving the clamps off makes removing the airbox both easier and safer, and I've never seen any oil mist weeping from the pipe connections.

They do sometimes get clogged, particularly if the car is only used for short journeys, and I always run a soft round brush through the breathers whenever I've got them off.
 
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In the really old days, he breather pipe just used to vent straight out underneath the engine into the atmosphere!
 
I had a big problem with breather pipes on a Yamaha 600 Diversion bike engine. The standard pipe was S shape coming off the top of the gearbox and feeding into the bottom of the air box. Very oddly, if the pipe got blocked the airbox would fill with oil and eventually drip onto the floor. The OEM pipe was prone to getting kinked. The fix was to fit a stiffer pipe that would not get kinked.
The 900 Diversion looked very similar but it's engine breather came off the top of the cylinder head. It also had small tubes into the head probably (probably to return any oil that might collect). Mine, even after 70,000 miles of hard use never had a problems with blow-by gasses or an oily air box.


As Varese says - there is no need for fancy clips but they do stop the pipe falling off. Something like this would do the job
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Double-W...44c783d17912b87a8d73|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2334524
 
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