koalar said:

But there is a label here when they are new

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Indeed there is.

I don't recommend jacking off the rear beam; it's flexible by design (that's why it's called twist beam suspension) and isn't intended to be used to lift the car. The whole twist beam setup is prone to alignment issues due to wide manufacuring tolerances, heavy kerbing and running over potholes; using the beam to lift the car just risks compounding the problem.

I wouldn't do it on a new car, much less an older one where the beam is likely to be signifcantly corroded.

Fair enough but mine has no label on the axle.

DaveMcT said:

Fair enough but mine has no label on the axle.

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Probably long since vanished.

Most by now haven't any paint left, never mind any labels .

I've always used a wood batten to protect the paint so it should be fine. But point taken, I'll jack under the spring pans in future. A scrap of wood will protect the paint.

This one should fit a Panda though, it has a 30mm deep slot
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vehicle-...638623?hash=item3f910f4c9f:g:8XUAAOSwddBe5eZo

The snag with that is the slot is no help when jacking the front under the front subframe mounting bolts. Which you have to do when putting axle stands under the sills.

Four blocks of 4x2 timber with some screws to prevent splitting work nicely for minimal costs.

DaveMcT said:

The snag with that is the slot is no help when jacking the front under the front subframe mounting bolts. Which you have to do when putting axle stands under the sills.

Four blocks of 4x2 timber with some screws to prevent splitting work nicely for minimal costs.

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H
Jack on the floor pan point and out the stand under the subframe then

chris3234 said:

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Jack on the floor pan point and out the stand under the subframe then

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Except the wood block between sill and axle stand is less likely to slip. And it costs 2p instead of £7 per block.

Surley you jack on the jacking points and use the axle stands...........elsewhere to support the vehicle, there is no way I would put axle stands under the sills!

If a car can be jacked under the sill (with suitable support around the joint flange) then an axle stand can be used in the same way.

If you lift a car on a post lift the support arms sit under the sill jacking points. What is the difference?

If you are doing significant work on the back axle the sills are the only option.

DaveMcT said:

If a car can be jacked under the sill (with suitable support around the joint flange) then an axle stand can be used in the same way.

If you lift a car on a post lift the support arms sit under the sill jacking points. What is the difference?

If you are doing significant work on the back axle the sills are the only option.

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But you don't lift the car on the sills using a two post lift
Theres a good image somebody else eposted here

https://www.fiatforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=213750

Garages and tyre fitters have always lifted mine under the sills. Presumably with slotted supports as the bottom edge flanges are all good. That image might be showing the same though its hard to tell if they are inside the bottom edge flange or around it.