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Rear brake shoe self adjusters

A second question please,
can anyone tell me where the 2 washers that are supplied with with these adjusters actually fit?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-REAR...53.m1438.l2649


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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Wow there expensive

I now buy them ready assembled kits with shoes, slave cylinders for around 50



I don't remember seeing those washers on the Bosch I have taken off


The adjusters are generic

Same ones used in Citroen, Suzuki , Vauxhall and so on maybe for other fitments


Maybe someone else can confirm
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

I can only imagine they're supposed to go over the adjustment screw between the ratchet wheel and the link rod of the adjuster?

Mine definitely don't have those washers fitted anywhere.
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

They go between the threaded road and the main body of the adjuster
My 500 has washers like those on
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Quote Originally Posted by chris3234 View Post
They go between the threaded road and the main body of the adjuster
My 500 has washers like those on
strange. Do you think the adjusters might have been changed in the past

might be a new thing but i have changed several around 05/06 mark without any.


not on the 500 instructions. But they might have been an update

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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

You can zoom in on the ones I buy there's no washer

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/pagid...-kit-122580038


Shop4parts doesn't appear to have them either although a little dark to see properly

Under the part number 77362613 most people don't supply a washer


For some reason most eBay suppliers do?
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

The washers are for the LOCKHEED brakes


Not sure where they fit as all the Pandas I have seen have been Bosch
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Quote Originally Posted by koalar View Post
The washers are for the LOCKHEED brakes


Not sure where they fit as all the Pandas I have seen have been Bosch
Not got washers on my 2006.
If the originals have washers, that'll show where to place these, if not, don't fir them.

I'm intrigued by them being on Lockheed brakes. The Lockheed brakes were the early, non-ABS models, so quite rare with less than year production, but I thought the Lockheed had manual adjusters, so no need for these self-adjusters. Doesn't matter really, just don't use them unless yours already has them.
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Thanks to everyone for the replies and info.
Will have to go back and strip it all down , re-assembly and see how that pans out.
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

I am concerned that @chris3234 has them fitted


The adjusters are quite a clever minimalist design. Even the little spring that holds the adjuster is a little off square on purpose to add a little gap


Having a washer into the mechanism will effect its performance


Even though I don't know where it should go complete assembles with the adjuster and springs ready fitted have 4 pins 4 clips and 2 starlock washers separate
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Quote Originally Posted by koalar View Post
I am concerned that @chris3234 has them fitted


The adjusters are quite a clever minimalist design. Even the little spring that holds the adjuster is a little off square on purpose to add a little gap


Having a washer into the mechanism will effect its performance


Even though I don't know where it should go complete assembles with the adjuster and springs ready fitted have 4 pins 4 clips and 2 starlock washers separate
Perhaps it was the spring washer/clip on the threaded end I was thinking off
Hard to say as it was nearly 2 years ago and no longer have the car
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

You can get special pliers on eBay for under 10 that compress the brake pad retaining springs.
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Are we all sorted ???
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Re: Rear brake shoe self adjusters

Koalar, yep sorted.
Priced up the ready assembled kit against buying everthing individually, and time saved
Got the ready assembled kits
Job done.
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