Just wondering because every time I use eurocarparts they give me the wrong ones.

Thanks

I normally download a catalogue something like https://www.ngkntk.com/uk/service/downloads/

Then look in the boot at the engine code as a double check


Although I can only see one listed for you year and engine size

Once you have the correct ones its the easy to find equivalents if needed

mattwick92 said:

Just wondering because every time I use eurocarparts they give me the wrong ones.

Thanks

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buy them from shop4parts instead better service too

DCPR7E-N-10 are the correct NGK code fitted from the factory
Eurocarparts part number is 408650010
If you look at fitment detail it has "from engine no- 2533529" on the 10 reg these will be correct for your car.
I have recently changed mine also a 10 reg, eurocarparts are a pain because they don't tell you on the description that they are DCPR7E-N-10 but that's what they are.

Jockcl500 said:

DCPR7E-N-10 are the correct NGK code fitted from the factory
Eurocarparts part number is 408650010
If you look at fitment detail it has "from engine no- 2533529" on the 10 reg these will be correct for your car.
I have recently changed mine also a 10 reg, eurocarparts are a pain because they don't tell you on the description that they are DCPR7E-N-10 but that's what they are.

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Good to know

Bugs me when online retails don't say what they are selling

How do you know if you are comparing apples with apples or apples with pears if information like brand or part number is missing.


Its uncommon not just for ECP or just for Fiat for the same part to be different price according to what reg you put in. Or only the premium bands listed for the higher spec car

A better idea is to fit iridium plugs; NGK DCPR7EIX are the ones you need. They're a direct replacement for the DCPR7E-N-10 and far better quality.

They'll easily last at least 60,000 miles without needing any attention whatsoever. I've the exact same car as you and have used them for the past 10 years, with no issues whatsoever.

The original DCPR7E-N-10's were well past their best at 6k.

jrkitching said:

A better idea is to fit iridium plugs; NGK DCPR7EIX are the ones you need. They're a direct replacement for the DCPR7E-N-10 and far better quality.

They'll easily last at least 60,000 miles without needing any attention whatsoever. I've the exact same car as you and have used them for the past 10 years, with no issues whatsoever.

The original DCPR7E-N-10's were well past their best at 6k.

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I not sure whats going on but I have no problems with the originals


I know NGK recommend changing at 10K kilometres But I have never changed either of my cars in the last 4 years even though I have a spare set in the back of the car. Yes it runs fine and mine returns over 60 mpg and has never altered.

of course driving style, country, fuel and so on can and will make a difference.

I not saying iridium are a waste of time. But for me the originals are good for well over 20K miles and can probably double that.


Iridium make more sense if you are going keep the car long term

jrkitching said:

A better idea is to fit iridium plugs; NGK DCPR7EIX are the ones you need. They're a direct replacement for the DCPR7E-N-10 and far better quality.

They'll easily last at least 60,000 miles without needing any attention whatsoever. I've the exact same car as you and have used them for the past 10 years, with no issues whatsoever.

The original DCPR7E-N-10's were well past their best at 6k.

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In over 30 years of using NGK plugs, I have never seen a set last only 6,000 miles, Usual changing at 20,000 but they are good for well beyond that.
I agree that iridium plugs are good, at double the price are worth the extra expense on certain cars with accessibility issues, but a Panda is not one of them, being easy to get at to swap.
Incidentally my brother in law had iridium plugs in his Toyota with fewer than 40,000 miles on the clock, and a garage changed them two years running for standard plugs, which he didn't notice till after he got home and looked at the latest bill and the previous one.
when questioned they said they thought he wanted a major service, so they changed them as that's what they do, the car had only done 3,000 miles between services.

As a side note


EBay is full of fake branded spark plugs and injectors


I have recently seen a side by side test of fake injectors. The spray pattern and flow rate were miles out. Plus spark plugs that fell apart.


Motor Factors aren't guaranteed but you stand a better chance

We did plugs for the 1.2 FIRE to death about eight years ago; the thread is here.

I've used the DCPR7EIX in both the 500 and the Panda.

The 500 started running slightly lumpy when cold from about 6000 miles; fitting iridiums cured it immediately, never to return. When I pulled the plugs, you could see the spark was tracking all over the centre electrode; picture in this post.

Copper core plugs are 50yr old technology; iridium alternatives work consistently for much longer and cope better with the ethanol content of modern fuels. If Fiat had spent an extra £10 on fitting decent plugs in the factory, they could have reduced the cost of the 2yr service ( at franchised dealer prices) by at least £100.

OK thanks very helpful...

I suppose I've got "old school" attitudes to plugs in that I got "comfortable" with changing them at every "big" service, so every second year, but I remove and gap them on the yearly minor service - On high annual mileage vehicles they might be renewed every year. I am also "frightened" by the up front price of these relative "newcomers". Then there's the other issue that if you're going to leave them in the engine for maybe 5 years or more I would guess you're going to run into seized threads more often? (yes I know they electroplate the threads to minimize this, I'm not convinced. My Ibiza has these Fancy jobs fitted so I'm going to find out about this spring when my Ibiza will be 5 years old with, probably around 25,000 miles under her wheels and she's getting a new set). Depending on what I find I'm going to decide whether to slaister my usual dollop of Alumslip anti seize around the threads before fitting. Another issue, of which I've only just become aware, is that the coils might be seized to the electrodes. I mentioned to our local VAG independent the other day, that I was going to do the plugs this year and he warned me that sometimes, if you haven't had them out at yearly service time, the rubber seals on the coils can "weld" themselves to the plugs and break up when you try to remove them necessitating new coils.

As far as where to buy service parts I would use S4p as I've had quite a lot of stuff from them and now trust them totally or my local factor where I've bought NGK plugs and Mahle filters for years. Mostly I buy my oil from Opie or Powerenhancer because I like the Fuchs brand and my factor only stocks generic trade oils. S4p have supplied me with Petronus oils - and they do all the correct factory transmission oils too. I think you need to be very careful where you source these sort of products now a days. There are some great bargain prices on "big name" oils on the internet but you need to be very careful that it's not old stock. The reputable brands are all dated on the container. Apparently an oil can be sold as "current" until 5 years from date of "bottling"? Anyone know different as I'm not certain on this. However my suppliers have never sent me one that's even 6 months old.

Thanks I used the ones from europarts code 408650010 and they were perfect.

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We did plugs for the 1.2 FIRE to death about eight years ago; the thread is here.

I've used the DCPR7EIX in both the 500 and the Panda.

The 500 started running slightly lumpy when cold from about 6000 miles; fitting iridiums cured it immediately, never to return. When I pulled the plugs, you could see the spark was tracking all over the centre electrode; picture in this post.

Copper core plugs are 50yr old technology; iridium alternatives work consistently for much longer and cope better with the ethanol content of modern fuels. If Fiat had spent an extra £10 on fitting decent plugs in the factory, they could have reduced the cost of the 2yr service ( at franchised dealer prices) by at least £100.

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I don't want to sound negative to this post. I just like to understand what gone wrong with the original plugs

Centre electrode doesn't look right ?

Looks different to any I have pulled out. Even after 20K plus they don't have any fuzziness. Almost looks like its not sealed properly for some reason

Running on cheap petrol mine are normally a fairly even dark grey