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Old 20-08-2020   #1
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Panda 100hp oil smell

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I'm fortunate to have recently bought a low mileage Panda 100hp. Car is fantastic apart from one issue I can't fathom out.
After 5 or 10 mins driving a noticeable oil smell comes into the car when parked at lights etc. Smell is not there when moving. With the engine running and bonnet up there is a mild smell but nothing huge. There is no obvious oil leak and no evidence on the ground where parked. I'd be very grateful if anyone can offer any ideas as what is the likely cause. Prior to purchase the car had oil service and mot.
If it is as simple as a spillage would it have burnt off after 2 weeks of short urban trips? The oddest thing is that the strongest smell enters the car when reversing on my drive. Many thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

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Its possible there is a small quantity split.. but odd its not clearing

How much driving have you done

Are the duckbills in place? some people remove them.. then the fresh air intake is open to fumes
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

Thanks for the reply. Total driving over 2 weeks probably 60 to 70 miles. Not much as car for short trips only and weekends. Car has yet to spend much time above 45mph.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

A good run should bake off any spilt oil..
but if its leaking.. then obviously it will just keep going..

Are all the fluid levels holding ok?



Duckbills.. check them anyway

Dont want a flooded cabin
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Yeah oil level looks fine and no sign of loss. Good clean oil after service. Not clued up on the duckbills but will look into it. Thanks again.
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When I bought my 100HP I was told of a repair that the dealers did due to an oil smell, apparently the diff bearings had worn and the seals were leaking as the diff had dropped slightly. This leak was directly above the exhaust front pipe and was the source of the smell.
The dealers replaced the diff bearings and seals and there hasn't been an issue since.
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Quote Originally Posted by daiblack View Post
When I bought my 100HP I was told of a repair that the dealers did due to an oil smell, apparently the diff bearings had worn and the seals were leaking as the diff had dropped slightly. This leak was directly above the exhaust front pipe and was the source of the smell.
The dealers replaced the diff bearings and seals and there hasn't been an issue since.
Gear oil dripping onto exhaust.. in front of flexi?
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

the recent service could potentially be the cause of any burning smell

New discs
New pads
exhaust jointing compound
spilt oil
and so on

can take quite a while to settle down.

its hard to tell with any new vehicle where or whats happening.

clean away old oil will identify where any new leak are as does some newspaper under the car. Funnily enough both my Panders leak like a sieve but never hit the exhaust or CAT.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

Finally got the chance to check those duckbills yesterday whilst it was dry. Both in place and both nice and clear. No sign of any leak on the ground or on any obvious drips when getting under the car or looking from above. Complete mystery. Could be the only option to get it in the garage. Again after driving today for 30 mins by far the strongest smell comes from reversing up the small incline on my drive. What could cause that? Thanks.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

The gear shift seal wears causing oil to run down the casing. The leak is rarely enough to cause drips under the car but it does smell. Check the slide and twist gear shift shaft on top of the gearbox.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

Many thanks for the replies. The more I read into this it does sound as Dave says above that its a gear shift seal. Got the car on a couple of jacks today and had a real good look round but can't see a thing oil leak related. This one is really hiding. Is there an easy way to see if it is this seal that is the problem? I've read that the job putting a new one in isn't that difficult but I'd like to know it is definitely causing the problem.
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

gear selector is highly unlikely. Even an unloved Panda leaking like a sieve and leaving oil on the drive rarely smell. Why because of the location of the exhaust is to the side.

Gear select oil finds its way to the bottom of the bellhousing as does most of the other common oil leaks places.


if you can smell it regularly you should be able to see it.


I'd start with the oil breather pipe often split or not attached properly. Common fault and is a cause of oil smell in the cabin

then the more unusual, Missing CAT shield, drive shaft and so on. Some photos of any damp patches would help
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

Is the engine burning oil? Could be from the exhaust.
Your description does indicate that.

All my cars are decatted so their fume smell is more prevalent than most. I sometimes get the smell when at traffic lights or reversing.

If the car is low mileage, there is a good chance it was driven lots or short distances and not very hard. These engine tend to use a bit of oil unless given a hard time now and then!
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Re: Panda 100hp oil smell

The gear selector shaft is on top of the gearbox. Mine had run oil down the gearbox and smelled quite bad but was not enough to drip on the floor. A new seal and problem solved.
The shifter shaft is on a removable cover on top of the gearbox.

To check it properly, you will need to remove battery and battery box. You can get a kit of parts (clip, pin and seal) from Shop4Parts.
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