I use tyre Leader for bike tyres where suppliers from all over Europe can advertise. www.tyreleader.com

They have been great for motorbike tyres but when I looked up standard 13" for the Panda 1200, my local supplier was quite a bit less money all in for Firestones. A web purchase would add delivery and fitting costs.

I didn't look at mud/snow so they might be a different issue.

Thanks all for that and appreciated.
Best
Ross

I was looking at tyres for my 05 4x4 Panda and rather than ask afresh I did a forum search and this post was dangerously good. Was only wanting to know what steel wheels I need for my 185/65 R14 tyred Panda as I know (from my 100HP Panda wheel searches) that 4x98 is only the start of it. There's wheel width (5.5 inches?) and that ET thing to make sure you clear/match the brakes?! I think. Now I want some tyres from Italy and go off-road! Thank you. Mean that. Good website. Winter tyres today, tomorrow… a ditch off one side of a green lane!

Check the rolling radius and circumference figures. Putting tall tyres on relatively large wheels can badly affect the gearing by making it too high for the engine. Over-gearing is never a good idea, especially bad when you need the low ratio 1st gear for off-road use. 13s with tall tyres would be just as grippy as 14s or 15s but wont risk the same gearing problems.

Even small differences are noticeable. I have 195-50 R15 on the 100HP and can feel the taller gearing compared to the "correct" 195-45 R15. That difference and the better ride are what I wanted but I would not want to fit (eg) 55 tyres. Just one step would be too much.

With 195/50's the speedo is exactly right compared to GPS. And it doesn't feel sluggish at all and still wants to spin up to 6500+ rpm (always on sport), but you are absolutely right that a larger circumference would be very bad for the whole car.

gr J

A3jeroen said:

With 195/50's the speedo is exactly right compared to GPS. And it doesn't feel sluggish at all and still wants to spin up to 6500+ rpm (always on sport), but you are absolutely right that a larger circumference would be very bad for the whole car.

gr J

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Exactly. check the tyre size specs and all will be well.

The Oponeo website has a good wheel size calculator and reasonable price steels.

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-wheels-finder

Hello people! NEWBIE here..I have a 2010 Panda Cross Diesel 1.2...175/65/15 tyres, I live in a very remote part of Welsh Wales and the access to my property is via a 1 miles unmade farm track, and basically all up hill...when it snows as it does every year, I normally have to leave all my cars 1 miles away and walk come rain or shine back and forth to them, which is a pain..so bought the panda to HOPEFULLY overcome this and have a way of getting up and down.
I currently have normal road tyres on the Panda, but would like some chunky tyres for grip on the gravely snowy track when the snow does eventually get here.
I clicked on the link for the Italian tyres, but unfortunately it looks as if they have gone will normal winter help over normal road tyres? and does anyone know of a chunky tyre available in the UK?? Many thanks for reading...Mark

These guys should be able to advise you to the most aggressive that fit



From what you say, and what you discribed I suspect 155/80 R13 full snow is what's really needed, you just can't drive them on a dry road without them over heating

I use to carry two in the boot and changed them when needed.

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will normal winter help over normal road tyres

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Yes.

Even a 2WD Panda is surprisingly useable in snow.

These are 15” but I believe they do a similar in 14” they also come in soft medium and hard compounds
I had 14” on my panda 169 climbing

Tell a lie, these were on my cross, they were 175 x 14 on the climbing, on punto alloys with 8mm spacers!
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