Register Login
endrop - for all your online needs
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 27-12-2016   #1
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,509
Thanks: 60
Trader Rating: 0
SB1500 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Heated Seats

I'd love to add heated seats to the Panda, provided all of the challenges of adding them are worth it for the result.

There are a few types of kits online, some sold even by reputable Land Rover specialists etc. So I'm assuming they're safe and sell in big enough numbers, and as some have guarantees then they should be of decent quality.

I can imagine this involves the following challenges:

- Wiring them in safely with the battery or to another wire.
- Hiding the wires
- Removing the front seats
- Stripping back the upholstery a bit
- Refitting
- Hiding wires
- Drilling holes for the switches
- Trying to not f*ck anything up in the process


Has anyone on here successfully tried it and lived to tell the tale?

I would sincerely adore this feature on cold winters (and summers mornings) and assuming it won't run my battery flat I'd be willing to put reasonable effort in to try and add heated seats.

Thanks
__________________
2017 Fiat Panda Easy 1.2 - 21,050 miles
2005 Fiat Panda Dynamic 1.2 - 153,700
SB1500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-12-2016   #2
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,344
Thanks: 701
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Is the UK really THAT cold?

Fit a block heater and plug in an hour before you use the car. Save petrol and saves wear & tear on the engine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coolant-Bl...wAAMXQC-tS~HtX

A second heater pad under the sump to warm the oil is also worthwhile.

Failing that google "heated seat covers for cars"
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides


Last edited by DaveMcT; 28-12-2016 at 13:29.
DaveMcT is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-12-2016   #3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 9,656
Thanks: 433
Blog Entries: 8
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

The hardest part is pulling the seats apart to fit them and put it all back together again keeping the tension in the seat covers.

You'll need to wire them to an ignition live otherwise they will kill your battery quickly when the car is not running.

For a panda you will need to get a set with small enough heat pads to fit as land rovers have big big seats and use very large pads remember the pad will need to fit between the stitching and patterns of the seat upholstery.

Make sure you leave enough wire between the seat and the car floor so that the seat can be moved without pulling the wires.

You will also need to route the wiring under the carpet in such a way that they won't get damaged by the seats being put back in on top of them or by people's feet squashing or damaging them under the carpet, so best to route them around the edges and up under the dash.

Depending on how much power the seat heaters use you may be able to tap into an existing wire but more likely you'll need to tap into the battery and install an ignition relay
__________________
Maker and voice behind the YouTube channel PuntoHowTo 10k subscribers canít be wrong

And now the owner of a shiny new PuntoHowTo Drivetribe
AndyRKett is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-12-2016   #4
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,344
Thanks: 701
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

You will need a relay because there wont be an ignition controlled source with enough capacity to cope. Run the wires with the seat pressure/seatbelt sensors.

TBH a block heater (like the one on eBay) looks easier to fit, probably no more money saves petrol and engine wear.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

DaveMcT is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-12-2016   #5
Panda 100HP
 
chuff's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 91
Thanks: 3
Trader Rating: 0
chuff has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Quote Originally Posted by DaveMcT View Post
Is the UK really THAT cold?

Fit a block heater and plug in an hour before you use the car. Save petrol and saves wear & tear on the engine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coolant-Bl...wAAMXQC-tS~HtX

A second heater pad under the sump to warm the oil is also worthwhile.

Failing that google "heated seat covers for cars"

I'm a bit confused.

He's asked about retrofitting seatwarmers...for the seats. You've recommended he fit a block warmer for a few hundred pounds, that requires a mains supply be fitted for around an hour before he wants to drive anywhere.


Is that not like asking for a sandwich, then getting a recommendation that you home cook a lobster?

I had heated seats in both my Volvo and Porsche, and they were fantastic. It was minus 4 degrees Centigrade this morning, and they would have been a godsend, but lack of leather in the Panda does reduce the cold a little.


To the OP - I think a few people have retrofitted them to Multiplas on here, might be worth a search/post.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

chuff is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 28-12-2016   #6
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,509
Thanks: 60
Trader Rating: 0
SB1500 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Okay well I'm confident now from this FiatForum'er we can do the wiring with the kit as the relays and fuses and switches all seem to be pre-setup.


What we're concerned about now, is stripping down the seat fabric to slot the pads inside and put it back together correctly.

Can amateurs do this adequately?!
__________________
2017 Fiat Panda Easy 1.2 - 21,050 miles
2005 Fiat Panda Dynamic 1.2 - 153,700
SB1500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 31-12-2016   #7
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 7,584
Thanks: 542
Trader Rating: 0
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta) 
Re: Heated Seats

many a cars burnt out due to seat warmers/ wiring /switching
if fitted by manufacturer i love em
i wouldn't recommend a retrofit
just buy some huggy warmer seat covers
__________________
s and b is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 31-12-2016   #8
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 178
Thanks: 15
Trader Rating: 0
Turkey 
Re: Heated Seats

I did mine 4 years ago wouldnt be without them are the business on winter days it not simple to do but not rocket science either

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/3156...s-how-2-a.html
Thanks SB1500 thanked for this post
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

ripshot34 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #9
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,344
Thanks: 701
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Quote Originally Posted by chuff View Post
I'm a bit confused.

He's asked about retrofitting seatwarmers...for the seats. You've recommended he fit a block warmer for a few hundred pounds, that requires a mains supply be fitted for around an hour before he wants to drive anywhere.


Is that not like asking for a sandwich, then getting a recommendation that you home cook a lobster?

I had heated seats in both my Volvo and Porsche, and they were fantastic. It was minus 4 degrees Centigrade this morning, and they would have been a godsend, but lack of leather in the Panda does reduce the cold a little.


To the OP - I think a few people have retrofitted them to Multiplas on here, might be worth a search/post.
Check out the prices.
Heated seat elements £20 to £50 per seat if you can get the right size plus upholstery work. The suggested block heater was £100 pus an extension lead - hardly breaking the bank. It also improves mpg which can't be bad.

If you can find seats to fit complete with heaters then fair enough but they are likely to cost hundreds.
Heres one. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-Fiat-...0AAOSwu4BVrfwr

If you want the cheap and nasty end of the scale. This will get warm until the elements break. It clearly fits the seat very well. Oh yes!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Luxury-Hea...IAAOSwT5tWJO49

On the other hand why not man up and buy a coat?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides


Last edited by DaveMcT; 01-01-2017 at 12:06.
DaveMcT is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #10
Panda 100HP
 
chuff's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 91
Thanks: 3
Trader Rating: 0
chuff has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

There we go OP..

Much easier solution is to apparently go out an hour earlier before you want to go anywhere, plug the car in (provided you have a driveway), and then suffer with higher electricity bills instead of using the 'free' electric your car makes.

Brought to you by Heath Robinson seat warmers ltd
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

chuff is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #11
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,105
Thanks: 74
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Or just drive like a loony.
That'll get you hot where it matters.

Or get you into hot water!
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Sweetsixteen is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #12
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,509
Thanks: 60
Trader Rating: 0
SB1500 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

A nice guy on here said if he could find a kit he bought years ago but didn't fit, he'd send it to me for the cost of the postage.

So if he does that I'll definitely be fitting them.

Is it a stupid idea to picture cutting a slice (bottom of backrest/rear most edge of the flat seat base) and slide in the heating elements and stitch them back up?

Just avoids messing up the seats and would also allow for a way of removing them should I ever have a need to.

Seat fabric is on its last legs these days anyway :-( it's got cotton balls all over them and they lift up out of shape when you get off the seat
__________________
2017 Fiat Panda Easy 1.2 - 21,050 miles
2005 Fiat Panda Dynamic 1.2 - 153,700
SB1500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #13
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,344
Thanks: 701
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Quote Originally Posted by chuff View Post
There we go OP..

Much easier solution is to apparently go out an hour earlier before you want to go anywhere, plug the car in (provided you have a driveway), and then suffer with higher electricity bills instead of using the 'free' electric your car makes.

Brought to you by Heath Robinson seat warmers ltd
Electricity will cost 2p compared to all the petrol used by a cold engine. But as everyone in UK seems to think shorts and T shirts are winter wear, the only answer is an electric blanket for the car seat.

Puurlease!
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

DaveMcT is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #14
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 9,656
Thanks: 433
Blog Entries: 8
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Still trying to rail road the conversation onto engine heaters ??

Anyway, you can buy heated seat set ups from eBay for not a lot of money and they are all fairly good quality.

A properly installed setup with appropriate fuses is not going to cause a fire, lots of scare mongering going on
__________________
Maker and voice behind the YouTube channel PuntoHowTo 10k subscribers canít be wrong

And now the owner of a shiny new PuntoHowTo Drivetribe
AndyRKett is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 01-01-2017   #15
Panda 100HP
 
chuff's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 91
Thanks: 3
Trader Rating: 0
chuff has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Heated Seats

Quote Originally Posted by AndyRKett View Post
Still trying to rail road the conversation onto engine heaters ??

Anyway, you can buy heated seat set ups from eBay for not a lot of money and they are all fairly good quality.

A properly installed setup with appropriate fuses is not going to cause a fire, lots of scare mongering going on
Indeed.

It's too warm in the UK for heated seats (a common factory item on most luxury brands), but apparently we all need to start fitting a block heater, like you'd get on a Lada.


I loved having heated seats, especially the ones in the Volvo. I imagine a certain poster wouldn't even have an electric blanket - it's far easier to run a water bed off a combi boiler. Probably....
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

chuff is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heated seats ljubo700 Polling Station 6 27-12-2013 00:06
(T) Heated seats How 2. ripshot34 Panda 5 03-09-2013 20:22
(T) heated seats are in ripshot34 Panda 2 27-01-2013 22:46
(T) heated seats calcutta Bravo / Brava 16 31-12-2009 10:04
(G) heated seats tim1989 Punto (Mk2/2b) 7 29-04-2009 18:14