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Hello, this is my first post, but I have enjoyed reading other peoples experiences on here, and bear with me, English is not my first language;
So I just bought this 2004 4x4 Climbing as my second Panda. the person who sold it to me had done an engine rework... awfull job, taken the head from what i suspect is a 2010 169A4000 motor, used the ignition coil from (I suspect) the 2004 188A4000 block... he had then mounted the thermometre and thermostat from a pre 2010 188A4000, which means the water did not actually circulate around the thermometre.. that caused a headache to figure out why there were no heating in the car, eventually the headgasket got boiled...
So I've added the correct thermostat housing for this head, put in a new gasket after getting all the old gunk out, and I have a new timingbelt, sparkplugs etc lying in a box ready to go in, and will put the rest together tomorrow, and hopefully it will run for a year, maybe more.. but I'm already considering the options of upgrading the motor when I get a bit of time...
Im by law allowed to add up to 20% extra power to my car, IF it then meets spec of another similar model (the 2010 fiat panda 2 with 69bhp the 169A4000 is on paper 15%) hence I'm considering this motor, if I can find one which is somewhat new...
how much of a hazzle is it to mount the new 169A4000 in a car build for the 188A4000? will bolts and nuts fit? what about the transmission, do I need a different pressureplate etc? I suspect electrics are almost OK, since the conversion have been halfway done to her already... I realise some coolant lines will have to be redone for different lengths (I have found the heater-core to thermostathousing is a longer distance than heater-core -> thermometre...) any other things like this I should be considering?
I'm not completely novice at panda-motor-swapping anymore, since my first panda lost oil-pressure (due to too thin oil, combined with a small hole in the sump and very slow driving), and had to have a new motor fitted, and now this headgasket-thing.. but I have not fiddled with any other motors..
Thank you for your time, and I do hope some of you knowledgeable people might have some answers.
Cheers, Tobias
So I just bought this 2004 4x4 Climbing as my second Panda. the person who sold it to me had done an engine rework... awfull job, taken the head from what i suspect is a 2010 169A4000 motor, used the ignition coil from (I suspect) the 2004 188A4000 block... he had then mounted the thermometre and thermostat from a pre 2010 188A4000, which means the water did not actually circulate around the thermometre.. that caused a headache to figure out why there were no heating in the car, eventually the headgasket got boiled...
So I've added the correct thermostat housing for this head, put in a new gasket after getting all the old gunk out, and I have a new timingbelt, sparkplugs etc lying in a box ready to go in, and will put the rest together tomorrow, and hopefully it will run for a year, maybe more.. but I'm already considering the options of upgrading the motor when I get a bit of time...
Im by law allowed to add up to 20% extra power to my car, IF it then meets spec of another similar model (the 2010 fiat panda 2 with 69bhp the 169A4000 is on paper 15%) hence I'm considering this motor, if I can find one which is somewhat new...
how much of a hazzle is it to mount the new 169A4000 in a car build for the 188A4000? will bolts and nuts fit? what about the transmission, do I need a different pressureplate etc? I suspect electrics are almost OK, since the conversion have been halfway done to her already... I realise some coolant lines will have to be redone for different lengths (I have found the heater-core to thermostathousing is a longer distance than heater-core -> thermometre...) any other things like this I should be considering?
I'm not completely novice at panda-motor-swapping anymore, since my first panda lost oil-pressure (due to too thin oil, combined with a small hole in the sump and very slow driving), and had to have a new motor fitted, and now this headgasket-thing.. but I have not fiddled with any other motors..
Thank you for your time, and I do hope some of you knowledgeable people might have some answers.
Cheers, Tobias