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Old 04-04-2015   #31
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

If the centre yoke can be removed from the shaft easily, without removing the universal joint, replacement of the centre bearing is relatively easy. If the centre joint needs to be removed, it will almost certainly be a staked joint, no circlips, so would most likely need to go to a specialist.

Elsewhere I've seen it listed as a GKN shaft, so should be repairable.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

When I had my petrol 05 reg 4x4 I was concerned about the centre bearing on the propshaft. I tracked down a company who supplied reconditioned propshafts. I emailed them and below is their reply from Feb 2013. Don't know if that info is any help... I didn't ever follow it up and changed the car in the end (not due to that issue!)
Many thanks for your enquiry, I can supply the centre bearing from stock, Price 55.00+vat.
As I understand the shaft is a sealed and the bearing is not easily replaced, we have not ever attempted to replace one but we would be more than happy to have a look at it for you?

A new shaft would cost around 400+vat - delivery would be 1/2 weeks as we are currently awaiting delivery from the supplier.

I hope that this helps a little?


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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

Any further news on your prop shaft repair?
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

Here's me sitting thinking I've never heard of this issue before this thread, then the car goes and developes a bad vibration thru the drive train. Disconnected the shaft and was perfect.

Tried several options but none convinced me, ordered a new one today, 469+ vat.

This is the first trouble the little car has ever given in 5 years I've owned it, so I don't mind spending it, and it's a lot cheaper than changing the car.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

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Here's me sitting thinking I've never heard of this issue before this thread, then the car goes and developes a bad vibration thru the drive train. Disconnected the shaft and was perfect.

Tried several options but none convinced me, ordered a new one today, 469+ vat.

This is the first trouble the little car has ever given in 5 years I've owned it, so I don't mind spending it, and it's a lot cheaper than changing the car.

Right.......how many miles?


You didn't fancy trying the bearing replacement? We're all anxious to see how GrannyC got on.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

67k, I've owned since 16k. We removed the shaft, re greased everything and split it to replace the bearing. Put it back in and was 5 times worse. The vibration rather than being limited to around the 2k rpm mark was right throughout the Rev range and there was a whine when off throttle. Basically was never going to be right and would have always annoyed me. As said the car doesn't owe me anything so is due a few parts, just so happened this was an expensive one!!
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

Just wondering if you marked the shaft for position (like, using Tippex?) before you dismantled it all?
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

No. It's one piece and seems simple enough. My mechanic was the one removed it so he may have tho.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

I am very much thinking I have the same problem so im considering going from 4x4 to 4x2
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

irish boy: was your panda making a low rhythmic rumbling at around 20 to 40 mph?
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I am very much thinking I have the same problem so im considering going from 4x4 to 4x2

Considering the resale values of 4x4s I'd say at 500 it's probably one of the few spends on the car that would probably get your money back on if you decided to sell it. If the funds aren't available though then 4x2 is not something that can't be reversed at some point.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

So how did yours sound / feel when the prop was going?
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

It was hard to describe, it was as if the car went thru a rough grumbling in the lower gears at lower rpms. Not noticeable at higher rpm or on the motorway unless the rpm dropped below 2500 on an incline. It's a case of it must have been getting slowly worse to the point I finally decided to do something about it, and when the shaft was disconnected I realised how it should and used to drive.
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

Well let us know how your prop shaft re-fit goes! Best of luck!
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Re: 58 plate 4 x 4 joint? worn out on prop shaft

Shaft going in today.

Lots of crossed fingers please......
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