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Old 19-06-2014   #1
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Cool 100hp possible engine swap?

im new to FF so hello!
i have a panda 100hp and i have already modified it quite a bit, (please keep the hate to the minimum)

i love the panda but i do feel it could do with a few extra horses..

the possible plans are as follow
1.4 t-jet engine swap from and grande punto
turbo the original engine
abarth engine swap if i can find one!
or a b16 b from a honda civic jordan my friend will have for sale very soon.

i am young and very indecisive and obviously would like to keep costs to a minimum

who has swapped/turbo the panda engine, i need help!!!
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

here are some photos of my panda as it stands
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

Does the Jellymold Abarth have the same engine but turbo'd?
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

I believe the Abarth 500 has basically the same engine, albeit with a turbo bolted onto it. That's probably the easiest way to get significantly more power from a 100HP. Just remember, the Abarth 500 only has 130ish bhp in standard form, so it's going to be a massive amount of work and money to end up with a car which will still get smoked, both around corners and in a straight line, by a proper hot hatch (Fiesta ST, Clio RS etc).

Also, if you were going to rip the back seats out, why on earth did you buy the practical, but not particularly fast, 100HP? Why not buy an Abarth 500 (or a real hot hatch) to begin with?
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I believe the Abarth 500 has basically the same engine, albeit with a turbo bolted onto it. That's probably the easiest way to get significantly more power from a 100HP. Just remember, the Abarth 500 only has 130ish bhp in standard form, so it's going to be a massive amount of work and money to end up with a car which will still get smoked, both around corners and in a straight line, by a proper hot hatch (Fiesta ST, Clio RS etc).

Also, if you were going to rip the back seats out, why on earth did you buy the practical, but not particularly fast, 100HP? Why not buy an Abarth 500 (or a real hot hatch) to begin with?

Probably the OP's age and the cost of the Abarth 500s.


An older thrashed Clio would probably have been in budget, though the insurance would (as standard) have been 'intrusive' I imagine. The is cheaper to insure, though how OPs mods have affected the insurance I wouldn't like to guess.


The Abarth 595 and the Punto/Mito squeeze 160 bhp out of the 1.4 engine mind.
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

The tjet engine is a slightly different beast to the 1.4 16v. The rods and crank are different to cope with the extra power. The na 1.4 have been turboed with limited success by the polish. If suspect the tjet swap the easiest or rebuilding yours for turboing there is someone in cento section doing this I think the pistons alone are 600. If rebuilding yours or a tjet you'll need an aftermarket ecu properly mapped. There is more to come out of a na 1.4 with cams etc but I your just on road and not competion then I would go turbo route but if suspect a budget of around 3k plus to do it right that with doing work yourself


The honda route will be a bit of a no goer you'll need to need of custom parts incl driveshafts and the headache of it all
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

Quote Originally Posted by Matt100HP View Post
Just remember, the Abarth 500 only has 130ish bhp in standard form
But the Essesse kit, which adds a chip (amongst suspension and brakes) makes it 158 BHP
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

T Jet out of a 500 Abarth (with gearbox and ECU) should be the simplest and cheapest. The Bravo (etc.) uses a different gearbox, so there may be clearance and driveshaft issues.

Although the T Jet was developed from the 1.4 16v, it certainly isn't a 16v with a turbo bolted on. Differences include:

pistons, head (better cooling), valves (better material), block (shorter, better cooling), sump (turbo drain, stiffening), crank (forged), rods (spec and full floating gudgeon pin), pistons (design and material).
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

i bought a panda because i liked the panda... at first i didnt have any interest in modifying but now i have i might as well go all out. also a abarth was well out of my budget
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

i have found a t jet from a grande punto and word on the street is that if fits straight in also using the ecu from the punto
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

Go for it. Let us know how you get on!
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Re: 100hp possible engine swap?

Has the swap ever happened or was this another case of wishful thinking? :/
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Has the swap ever happened or was this another case of wishful thinking? :/


It's been done a couple of times but it's much more difficult and expensive than you'd think.
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Oh no I understand that, I just meant with the thread starter, whether he went on with the idea or backed out.
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Oh no I understand that, I just meant with the thread starter, whether he went on with the idea or backed out.


Haven't seen anything new regarding this and the only ongoing t-jet swap I know of is Ayrton Hunter on the fb page and his has been a pretty lengthy process.
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