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Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

Anyone got a set of brake callipers for a diesel / 100HP ? - the ones for vented discs ?? all the same afaik...
Also would like rear disc conversion - callipers / dust shield / hub etc,
Not bothered about discs / pads unless mint as I would be fitting new.


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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

I don't have any of the stuff you want, sorry . However, is it really worth changing the rear drums for discs? They can't actually be doing a great deal, beyond their obvious handbrake duties, even in the 100HP.

If I was you, I'd change the front discs to 257mm vented units, stick some good pads on and see what difference that makes before I spent time and money fiddling with the rear brakes.

Or, I could just be bored and ranting haha .
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I don't have any of the stuff you want, sorry . However, is it really worth changing the rear drums for discs? They can't actually be doing a great deal, beyond their obvious handbrake duties, even in the 100HP.

If I was you, I'd change the front discs to 257mm vented units, stick some good pads on and see what difference that makes before I spent time and money fiddling with the rear brakes.

Or, I could just be bored and ranting haha .
lol, naw, its me thats bored, dont forget, I retired at 47... I just enjoy messing .. I want to sort things out ready for the 1400 conversion - also looking at possibly adding a turbo at a later stage.. but for now, the 1400 8V (far better for turbo conversion later ) ... if you could see the roads we have here, it is like the monte carlo rally - the sort of roads Top Gear go across Europe for - you would absolutely have a hoot in the HP Saucer !! .. we are going on a road trip on Sat and Sun this week looking at houses, both are roads from heaven for a 'driver' .. I like disks as well, no buggering about with drums...
You have to let the old guys occupy their time Matt ....
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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

The rear drums do a bit more than you suggest. Having had a delamination of the rear shoe on mine, I can confirm that there's little braking effort under those circumstances!
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It is a hard life
But some of us have to do it... wife, cat and 'yott' to run ya know.. AND the Ferret.. and soon a bleeding house for 'er indoors - well a mancave with a house attached
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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

How can a Panda be a ferret?
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How can a Panda be a ferret?
How can a Panda be a 'Dez' ??

I just thought it looked like a ferret and drove like I imagine a ferret to ... like a rat up a drainpipe lol ...
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Obviously not! I called my Panda Dez! Lol. But at least my reg plate matches his name. B)
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Obviously not! I called my Panda Dez! Lol. But at least my reg plate matches his name. B)
Hmm,,, trouble is, you dont get many names out of 58 78 XA ........

(But I was told it is ancient Lithuanian for 'Ferret' )
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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

Maybe maybe not!

My order for my car included instruction to keep me a Dez plate, lol. Attention to detail or what?
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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

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The rear drums do a bit more than you suggest. Having had a delamination of the rear shoe on mine, I can confirm that there's little braking effort under those circumstances!
I shall accept your very unfortunate expert knowledge on the matter ! To be fair, something makes the 100HP stop like it's hit a wall when you need it to, I guess it's a combination of all-round discs and low weight. I believe the front brakes were originally designed to do front braking on the bigger, heavier Punto.
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Re: Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.


I'd try finding Puntoparts.
Mastercilinder might be different too.

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I'd try finding Puntoparts.
Mastercilinder might be different too.

gr J
good point, will check on eper ! ....
ps, have you ever seen how those brit rhd pandas operate the brake master cyclinder from the pedal YIKES !!
A long linkage bar going from right to left (brake servo and cylinder remain on the correct side (Left ) and this convoluted linkage goes across.
it has a couple of 'Jesus Christ' pins in it too.. as in what you say if one should fail

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I shall accept your very unfortunate expert knowledge on the matter ! To be fair, something makes the 100HP stop like it's hit a wall when you need it to, I guess it's a combination of all-round discs and low weight. I believe the front brakes were originally designed to do front braking on the bigger, heavier Punto.
There shouldn't be any difference in the braking ability (force and action) between a standard panda and a panda with vented discs on, the vents only serve one purpose, to reduce or eliminate fading caused by heat build up.
Disks on the rear are more effective than drums, but only slightly, they do not suffer from the same issues as drums though if used heavily - and also the heating part -drums are notoriously bad - even though I would agree the proportional effort to the rear is small.
which punto's - model year / types had same brakes ? - they are a complete mystery to me - never even sat in one....
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