LOL! So can you buy new Lada's thesedays?
It doesn't hold it's value any better than other small cars, in fact it's far worse if you compare it with the like of say a Mini. So I'd say all 'usual rules' apply.
General about to buy a 1.1 active eco - good move?
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General about to buy a 1.1 active eco - good move?
LOL! So can you buy new Lada's thesedays?
It doesn't hold it's value any better than other small cars, in fact it's far worse if you compare it with the like of say a Mini. So I'd say all 'usual rules' apply.
Have you not noticed Renault F1 cars driving around carrying Lada branding?
Can't buy them in the UK right now but they're still plodding along.
I bought a one owner Samara in 1999 that was less than four years old from the dealer that sold it new for £6000.
It cost me £700 which brings a whole new meaning to the word 'depreciation'
Traditionaly small cheap cars loose their value quicker than water falls out of Niagra.
The Panda is quite good at this, 2005 example still fetch £2k. My dad bought a three year old Lada from a dealer with 30k on the clock for £800.
The Panda does loose value quicker than a Polo or Fiesta which means the cost of one of those cars is not that much more than a Panda, but if you're buying it on finance the higher purchase costs means you're paying back more interest too.
I reckon my Panda is worth less than £5k now, I paid £6400 for it just four months ago. That is an eye watering loss BUT I plan to keep it for many years so I won't suffer the initial loss either. An 8 year old Panda with FSH and a full MOT will always be worth at least £1k+ if current trends continue.
The Panda is quite good at this, 2005 example still fetch £2k. My dad bought a three year old Lada from a dealer with 30k on the clock for £800.
The Panda does loose value quicker than a Polo or Fiesta which means the cost of one of those cars is not that much more than a Panda, but if you're buying it on finance the higher purchase costs means you're paying back more interest too.
I reckon my Panda is worth less than £5k now, I paid £6400 for it just four months ago. That is an eye watering loss BUT I plan to keep it for many years so I won't suffer the initial loss either. An 8 year old Panda with FSH and a full MOT will always be worth at least £1k+ if current trends continue.
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Good point, but seriously what were they thinking?
Thanks. But you should compare 06 and 07 not 06 and 57, which will be a bigger depreciation hit. Also, depreciation is exponential, so the first yr is the largest fall. I will still have 2 yrs warranty and no MOTs. There are pros and cons either way I suppose.
The *only* reliable way to check mpg is to do it when you fill the tank to the brim and divide the miles my the gallons just put in, and do it for lots of journeys. I can get 1000 mpg on my merc when coasting! but its 33 overall.
MR PANDY
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Very good move had mine 2months now
Philepo, I faced a similar decision a couple of months ago, and drove a 1.1 active/1.2 dynamic back-to-back. Here's what I thought at the time:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/242446-new-panda-1-1-v-1-2-a.html?p=2536510
I actually bought a new 1.2, which arrived a couple of weeks ago and herself has been using it for a week. I'm sure I made the right choice - the 1.2 engine is a delight to drive and the A/C is incredibly useful for demisting the car quickly on the damp mornings we've been having recently.
Also got it for just under £6600 OTR, so I reckon the £2100 or so discount will go some way towards offsetting the initial depreciation. Not bad at all for a new, air conditioned '60 plate car.
Economy according to the trip computer has been climbing steadily as the car starts to run in, and as of last night (with 200 miles on the clock) is showing 54.8mpg.
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/242446-new-panda-1-1-v-1-2-a.html?p=2536510
I actually bought a new 1.2, which arrived a couple of weeks ago and herself has been using it for a week. I'm sure I made the right choice - the 1.2 engine is a delight to drive and the A/C is incredibly useful for demisting the car quickly on the damp mornings we've been having recently.
Also got it for just under £6600 OTR, so I reckon the £2100 or so discount will go some way towards offsetting the initial depreciation. Not bad at all for a new, air conditioned '60 plate car.
Economy according to the trip computer has been climbing steadily as the car starts to run in, and as of last night (with 200 miles on the clock) is showing 54.8mpg.
The registration prefix changed on 1st September. If you are looking at a '09' plate car, that is now 3 registration prefixes old ('09'>'59'>'10'>'60').
Just out of interest, what's the mileage on the used Panda you're considering?
Something most probably won't notice but the door handles on the outside are Fiat 131 handles
Like most people have already said I have never found a problem with the pedals. I am over 6 foot and its never been an issue.
With the 1.2 Dynamic also being a cheap car and not much more than an Active I would consider getting the Dynamic. Air con is an easy thing to do without if you have never had it. But once you have it you never want to do without it again. The summer this year has been hot and long and the climate control system in my 100HP is a god send. So I would try and get a Dynamic with all the toys.
If you can wait I would wait until the new one is out next year. I am sure at that time the older models will be sold off at bargain prices.
It wouldnt surprise me if Lada ends up buying a British car company, thats if theres any left. A lot of the so called crap brands now own iconic british marques. Proton owns Lotus and Tata owns Land Rover for example. Great Britain has sold all its family silver.
With the 1.2 Dynamic also being a cheap car and not much more than an Active I would consider getting the Dynamic. Air con is an easy thing to do without if you have never had it. But once you have it you never want to do without it again. The summer this year has been hot and long and the climate control system in my 100HP is a god send. So I would try and get a Dynamic with all the toys.
If you can wait I would wait until the new one is out next year. I am sure at that time the older models will be sold off at bargain prices.
It wouldnt surprise me if Lada ends up buying a British car company, thats if theres any left. A lot of the so called crap brands now own iconic british marques. Proton owns Lotus and Tata owns Land Rover for example. Great Britain has sold all its family silver.
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I am sure. The 1.1 needs to be worked harder than the 1.2 so economy suffers.
But not I think enough to worry about.
More kit and the awesome might of 60BHP are the reasons to look at a 1.2.
Official MPG figures for both engines (Eco) are identical. The 1.2 is heavier too as it has a heavy aircon compressor to carry around.
To me the difference is really what you need to use for car for, I do lots of short journeys so aircon or any extra power is not needed. If I did a lot of longer journeys then 1.2 would have made more sense.
The 1.1 is the simpler car and this should go wrong a bit less. There is no boot botton to worry about etc.
To me the difference is really what you need to use for car for, I do lots of short journeys so aircon or any extra power is not needed. If I did a lot of longer journeys then 1.2 would have made more sense.
The 1.1 is the simpler car and this should go wrong a bit less. There is no boot botton to worry about etc.
Carrying an air con compressor around is hardly going to kill economy......
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I've never had any problems with mine on long journeys, I've done over 2,500 miles since may, and it is quite happy on the motorway. I don't know where this idea of them being mainly a city car came from?
To me, the only reason for a 1.2 is to get any gadgets you can't live without. Like you say though, less to go wrong with a 1.1, which is important if you plan on keeping it forever.
My old car was an ex RAF very basic spec, no electric windows to fail, no central locking to break, perfect in a car over 10 years old.
The 1.2 is hardly a car full of "gadgets"!!!!I've never had any problems with mine on long journeys, I've done over 2,500 miles since may, and it is quite happy on the motorway. I don't know where this idea of them being mainly a city car came from?
To me, the only reason for a 1.2 is to get any gadgets you can't live without. Like you say though, less to go wrong with a 1.1, which is important if you plan on keeping it forever.
I hardly think not having a boot button and the absense of air conditioning is a good thing and will result in far greater long term reliability......
Air conditioning really is a must these days for people who like to see out the window. It was the only way my 500's windows were getting demisted during the first 10 minutes or so of driving last winter.....
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I have never owned a car with air con, and strangely enough it has never caused me a major issue. On the rare occasion I borrowed a car with it, I only used it to keep my ice cream cool on the way home from the shops!
If you are buying to a budget, air con is just another thing to have maintained, and another possible source of trouble. Equally, the simpler the locks, the less possibility of something going wrong with them. My car before the RAF beastie had an irritating central locking problem, so I was actually pleased not to have it on the next car. Only problem was blase central locking owners leaving their doors open.
Never had any cars which suffered from a mist issue. You simply use the heaters dimister.
The only car which did mist up was the Fiesta but I soon found the cause, the pollen filter was the original 1997 one!.
The Active really isn't that basic, if you think its basic have a look at the base spec of a 107!.
As for speed I can over take lories very easily at 70mph and the only really issue is having to change gear a bit.
I went from a 1.2 16v Corsa to a 1.1 8V Panda and the Panda quite a bit slower in terms of BHP but in the real world there is hardly any difference.
To me the main difference of the two is you get aircon and remote central locking on the 1.2 and do I miss the remote locking. That said I saved £1k by buying the active which is about 350 pints of german beer but I suppose with that argument I could have bought a Lada for £100 and bought 25,000 pints of beer.
The only car which did mist up was the Fiesta but I soon found the cause, the pollen filter was the original 1997 one!.
The Active really isn't that basic, if you think its basic have a look at the base spec of a 107!.
As for speed I can over take lories very easily at 70mph and the only really issue is having to change gear a bit.
I went from a 1.2 16v Corsa to a 1.1 8V Panda and the Panda quite a bit slower in terms of BHP but in the real world there is hardly any difference.
To me the main difference of the two is you get aircon and remote central locking on the 1.2 and do I miss the remote locking. That said I saved £1k by buying the active which is about 350 pints of german beer but I suppose with that argument I could have bought a Lada for £100 and bought 25,000 pints of beer.
