General coilover suspension

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General coilover suspension

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anyone know where i can get some from?

i can get some kw coilovers but they are mega expense

all i want is to lower the car so some cheap ones will be alright
 
Just so you realise I would factor in well over a £100 for a full geo setup afterwards. This must be done properly.

I have to say I wouldn't look at coilovers for under a grand. You really need to spend good money to get something decent. I have never heard of xyz and I used to do geo setups on Elises and Exiges for track and race.

A cheaper route (if you must) is to buy some lowering springs and a set of appropriate dampers to match. Makes like Koni are good, but again avoid the cheaper ones as they'll be nasty.
 
im not interested in performance so i wouldnt spend a grand on coilover even if i had it, dont think i could find £1000 worth of suspension for the panda

already got lowering springs on at 30mm, and the lowest ive seen on suspension kits is 40mm

dont wanna go and spend money on a kit only to want it lower still so i might aswell save up for the height adjustable coilovers

one other route which people do is cutting the springs but imo its a stupid idea
 
Funny thing this styling lark. If this were the '70s you'd all be sticking six inch 'jack up' links to the springs of your Mk1 Escorts.

I wonder when 'high' will be back in fasion?
 
wots that geo setup thing?? ill just be like slap em on as low as they go haha :p

If you just slap them on and set them as low as you can go your car will most likely be some kind of liability on the road if you are lucky. As for handling, well forget it.

A geommetry setup to use the full term, involves corner weighting the car, which means setting the height of the suspension with a driver aboard or as some occasionally prefer with a driver and passenger. Then you can set the ride height properly. It's an exacting science and I would do it to the millimetre. I used to use ballast in the driver's seat equivalent to the weight of the driver I had been given. Or I would use a colleague who was close to the same weight. You need to do this properly so that when you are sitting in the driver's seat the car is at the correct ride height all the way round.

Then you need to align the front and rear. You need to set the camber, castor and toe angles. Obviously you should do all this whilst you still have the car corner weighted. If you don't do this your car will be absolute rubbish and way worse than a stock car when it comes to handling. It may even be dangerous.
 
im not interested in performance so i wouldnt spend a grand on coilover even if i had it, dont think i could find £1000 worth of suspension for the panda

already got lowering springs on at 30mm, and the lowest ive seen on suspension kits is 40mm

dont wanna go and spend money on a kit only to want it lower still so i might aswell save up for the height adjustable coilovers

one other route which people do is cutting the springs but imo its a stupid idea
I get the impression that you don't actually know what coilovers are

Dampers (what you're probably talking about)
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Coilovers
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Coilovers would be such a stupid thing to put on a Panda Eco. They'd be stupidly stiff, you couldn't reuse the springs you've already paid for, it's be stupidly stiff, your car doesn't have enough power to make use of decent suspension, they'd be stupidly stiff.............. etc etc etc

I can just about understand it on a 100hp but on a Panda Eco? Just silly and like Trackdayqueen says they need to be properly set up otherwise it'll spoil the way the car handles.

But you're young and headstrong and will ignore the good advice that you're given so go on, go ahead and get the coilovers. You really should just buy some better dampers because they'll be far more suitable for the purpose.

As for what Tom said that's one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. You don't just chuck suspension bits on a car, it's got to be set up right FFS! It just goes to show the healthy level of ignorance people have that they'd suggest that you should slap stuff on and see how low you can go. The wifes car is getting its front end rebushed with poly bushes, rack ends replaced, tie rod ends replaced, balljoints replaced and uprated droplinks replaced and I can assure you that it won't be getting driven at speed till it's been alligned. It's the sensible thing to do........
 
i know what coilovers are and i know what dampers are.

another thing if you read what i put it says im not interested in it from a cornering performance veiw, want it purely for the looks
 
i know what coilovers are and i know what dampers are.

another thing if you read what i put it says im not interested in it from a cornering performance veiw, want it purely for the looks
You won't be able to see them when they're on the car tbh and you can get a large drop with normal springs......
 
i know what coilovers are and i know what dampers are.

another thing if you read what i put it says im not interested in it from a cornering performance veiw, want it purely for the looks

The trouble is, simply from a pure safety perspective, it will still need setting up properly and you wouldn't want to make the handling dangerous though would you?
 
If you just slap them on and set them as low as you can go your car will most likely be some kind of liability on the road if you are lucky. As for handling, well forget it.

A geommetry setup to use the full term, involves corner weighting the car, which means setting the height of the suspension with a driver aboard or as some occasionally prefer with a driver and passenger. Then you can set the ride height properly. It's an exacting science and I would do it to the millimetre. I used to use ballast in the driver's seat equivalent to the weight of the driver I had been given. Or I would use a colleague who was close to the same weight. You need to do this properly so that when you are sitting in the driver's seat the car is at the correct ride height all the way round.

Then you need to align the front and rear. You need to set the camber, castor and toe angles. Obviously you should do all this whilst you still have the car corner weighted. If you don't do this your car will be absolute rubbish and way worse than a stock car when it comes to handling. It may even be dangerous.

wow 'complicated' thanks for the info (y) may not get them now have to see dont wont to bodge the hole car up init lol
 
wow 'complicated' thanks for the info (y) may not get them now have to see dont wont to bodge the hole car up init lol

No problem. It's just that when you put new suspension on and particularly so with coilovers, they will be absolutely miles out before the geo setup is done and it will really upset the handling (being potentially dangerous), so it's pretty important as you'd be surprised how badly the handling could be affected and of course you won't know until you approach your first corner at speed!
 
not the look of the coilovers, the look of the car.

guess ill have to save up abit more for the setup aswell then(n)
 
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