Driving home tonight had some battleaxe in a passat (or the skoda equivalent) trying to drive through Squirrile on the M25 at junction 8 anticlockwise. (see attached picture)

She was the classic example of a 'Kelloggs' Licence holder. Halfway down the sliproad she switched from the slow to the fast lane (the lanes were already divided) and came barrelling towards my passenger door, veering when a gnat's tadger apart.

when alongside she tried several times to come into my lane but kept finding me there unable to change lanes, despite me sounding the horn she seemed unable to grasp the concept that a Panda would be on the road, with right of way to boot !

Eventually she got the message and had to come out behind a lorry following me (he wasn't going to take her nonsense either)

As I came off at junction 7 I could see her behind me crawling in the fast lane (with cursing drivers behind her).

she had no clue what she was doing as she entered the M23 behind me and I could see several moves that made other driver's take avoiding action.

Eventually the battleaxe (on the beer scale her beauty could not be measured in pints, barrels maybe) passed me and continued on her way.


Trev

Unfortunately it doesnt turn off,Not just pandas though seicentos and puntos have it as standard fit too!

scunnyfiat said:

Unfortunately it doesnt turn off,Not just pandas though seicentos and puntos have it as standard fit too!

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Bugga !!!!!!!!!!

Do Fiat still make a tank ?

scunnyfiat said:

Unfortunately it doesnt turn off,Not just pandas though seicentos and puntos have it as standard fit too!

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I am having the same experience in a Grande Punto courtesy car. I swear it is attracting them (even tho it has no stickers). Someone somewhere is determined that I will have an accident in it!

and if she had barrelled into you no doubt she'd have said it was your fault. Now that solid state camcorders are pretty cheap I'm always looking for something that runs off the accessory socket and could easily be rigged up to record the antics of the muppets on the M25 so that when they do hit you at least they can't tell fibs and say it was all your fault.

Dont know about the tank but iam thinking of getting a ducato watch them move then!

SurreyAlan said:

and if she had barrelled into you no doubt she'd have said it was your fault. Now that solid state camcorders are pretty cheap I'm always looking for something that runs off the accessory socket and could easily be rigged up to record the antics of the muppets on the M25 so that when they do hit you at least they can't tell fibs and say it was all your fault.

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Our MEP (Jon) has a T-eye camera system, but even that would be no good with the heap to my immediate left :bang:

udtrev said:

Bugga !!!!!!!!!!

Do Fiat still make a tank ?

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Find yourself a Peugeot 504 Mine got involved in a fender bender and wrote the other car off. I broke a fin off the cooling fan (lucky it was so brittle as this meant when it hit the radiator it didn't hole the radiator) and got a few dents, nothing major

SurreyAlan said:

and if she had barrelled into you no doubt she'd have said it was your fault. Now that solid state camcorders are pretty cheap I'm always looking for something that runs off the accessory socket and could easily be rigged up to record the antics of the muppets on the M25 so that when they do hit you at least they can't tell fibs and say it was all your fault.

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udtrev said:

Our MEP (Jon) has a T-eye camera system, but even that would be no good with the heap to my immediate left :bang:

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And there was me thinking it was only me viewing it all today.

Gorleston high street and then Tesco Gt Yarmouth.

Fiesta looks like I over reacted due to wide angle lens, but if you knew the junction you'd know that he was way to far over.

Please mute if kids about, my language was a bit rife in places

Most Easterly Pandas said:

And there was me thinking it was only me viewing it all today.

Gorleston high street and then Tesco Gt Yarmouth.

Fiesta looks like I over reacted due to wide angle lens, but if you knew the junction you'd know that he was way to far over.

Please mute if kids about, my language was a bit rife in places

YouTube - Driving Tits 4th Aug

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That gave me a good laugh How much did that setup cost you?

T-eye looks to be about 280 to 320 but appears to be a great product and the quality is good enough to show what happened. One would have to be very careful though, I might be getting slower and I think safer but that's not to say I don't do the odd stupid thing now and again. Our excess on recent prang was 220 and while we consider it entirely the third partys fault with no independent witnesses very hard to resolve - something like this clinches it.
What powers it and is it easy to remove?
As it has a rear facing lens does that mean you can never pick your nose in the car again - maybe they should be compulsory just for that reason.

306maxi said:

That gave me a good laugh How much did that setup cost you?

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£300

Well worth it in my view though.

SurreyAlan said:

T-eye looks to be about 280 to 320 but appears to be a great product and the quality is good enough to show what happened. One would have to be very careful though, I might be getting slower and I think safer but that's not to say I don't do the odd stupid thing now and again. Our excess on recent prang was 220 and while we consider it entirely the third partys fault with no independent witnesses very hard to resolve - something like this clinches it.
What powers it and is it easy to remove?
As it has a rear facing lens does that mean you can never pick your nose in the car again - maybe they should be compulsory just for that reason.

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Powered by the cigaret lighter and very easy to remove (just like a sat nav, but mounted on the rear view mirror instead).

Some say £300 is alot, and I agree it is, but concidering it's GPS calaberated for location and speed (although it doesn't work through the UV/heat reflective screen on the Stilo) and is a plug in and forget about until, I personall thought £300 was a great price, and there is not many products similar on the market.

It's also a built in shock sensor for auto footage capture, and is ideal in whiplash claims for proving forces involved etc.

My excess was £400 at one point as a young driver, so in my view, just one 3rd party prang, and it would have paid for itself.

And it's great when doing track days, or 4x4 off roading like I did in my last Panda.

And here is a video with at night. Quality still good.

And notic the GPS calabrated info at the top of the video on this one.

Was done in sisters 2004 mk3 Panda Active.

there's another one called roadhawk - the mounts seem a bit better but only has a forward facing camera - slightly cheaper. But to OP - even a camera that didn't look out the side would indicate fault when you're just driving along between the lines minding your own business and all of a sudden there's a great big crash. Something like this is just what I've been looking for. It only has to save the excess and NCD once to pay.

Ah yes, looking at it the roadhawk is the same as the 'X-Driven' but with a different name.

Only problem with these i how they're mounted. Sticky onto the windscreen and sticks out like a saw thumb when parked, like a sat nav, meaning you have to remove it every time you leave the car.

T-eye is surprisingly discreet

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showfull.php?photo=48593

Can you spot which Panda has it

The phone holder on the bottom left of the screen sticks out more

Most Easterly Pandas said:

Ah yes, looking at it the roadhawk is the same as the 'X-Driven' but with a different name.

Only problem with these i how they're mounted. Sticky onto the windscreen and sticks out like a saw thumb when parked, like a sat nav, meaning you have to remove it every time you leave the car.

T-eye is surprisingly discreet

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showfull.php?photo=48593

Can you spot which Panda has it

The phone holder on the bottom left of the screen sticks out more

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The one on the right obviously

tarbyonline said:

I am having the same experience in a Grande Punto courtesy car. I swear it is attracting them (even tho it has no stickers). Someone somewhere is determined that I will have an accident in it!

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No sign of your Panda being fixed yet?

Don't think it's possible, I sometimes think that black 100's are invisible!

Well judging by today the magnet has been turned down a tadge, although the mature space cadet doing 50 in the second lane between junctions 8 & 9 of the M25 still qualifies

She just ambled on and when the traffic built up behind her she turned on her hazards before finally getting the hint 5 mile later to get her butt into the slow lane.

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No sign of your Panda being fixed yet?

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Nope. Will be day 4 of the current stint tomorrow, tried ringing today but no answer so will try again tomorrow. Thing is, im starting to get attached to the Grande! - and its like having a mini maserati out the front, people keep giving it admiring glances!!!! Its nice having the extra space and has come in handy as mum has hurt her leg bad so the panda would be too much of a squeeze. Mind you i miss the panda engines eagerness to get up hills etc, the punto feels slugish in comparison (its a 1.4 8v). Its still attractng muppets tho!!!!!