306maxi said:

Blimey. I look forward to seeing lots of people with drivetrain problems!

As for the wrap it will be some sort of bonnet or side skirt protection film like the one pictured but it will be clear. Means you won't get stone chips in the paint where the film is applied

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no worry folks we got excellent diagrams and explanations of the drivetrain on fiat system lol

it's quite simple really

Herts Hillhopper said:

To Most Easterly Jon -- I'll edit the photo in a bit, but for now... The outer round headlights are divided across the middle, the upper part being dipped beam, and the lower part the main beam 'driving lights'. The inner pair of lights in pods are the front fog lights, and the lights at the bottom of the car (where the rest of us get fogs) are the indicators.

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OK guys, I realise this is an old thread but I need some advice regarding the above information. I have a new Panda Cross. The front lights are as described above with one major difference.

With my car the outer round headlights are divided across the middle, the upper part being dipped beam, and the lower part apparantly being the front fog lights. The inner pair of lights in pods are apparently the high beam lights, and the lights at the bottom of the car (where the rest of us get fogs) are the indicators.

So when I push the lighting stalk forwards the blue, high beam, indicator comes on on the dash and the lights in the little round holders between the main lights come on. When I press the front fog light switch the light on the bottom half of the main lights come on. Is this the way it is supposed to be?

That's how the lights are on my Cross.
The main beam spots in the pods are great on quiet country roads at night.

The Sultan said:

no worry folks we got excellent diagrams and explanations of the drivetrain on fiat system lol

it's quite simple really

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I know It's a year late but I was joking btw. I know the drivetrain isn't made out of viscose

the panda 4x4 uses a viscous diff, basically some gears imersed in oil, when the wheel spins up it spins the gears in the diff which causes the oil to heat up and lock the 2 wheels together, no electronics just mechanical wizardry.


id imagine the cross is the same

Sorry for the confusion guys, this post is from like 2 years ago!

It's the onlt thread I could find that discussed the lights on the front of the Panda Cross.

No-one is currently interested in the vicious diff (that's the one with the big teeth and sharp claws!)

pandasam said:

the panda 4x4 uses a viscous diff, basically some gears imersed in oil, when the wheel spins up it spins the gears in the diff which causes the oil to heat up and lock the 2 wheels together, no electronics just mechanical wizardry.


id imagine the cross is the same

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no the cross isn't the same and no that's not how a viscose coupler works

also newer panda 4 be 4 are using the cross system for engaging rear drive the viscouse is dropped across the range not just for cross now

and who dug this up anyhow

If you can't find a recent thread for the topic you want to discuss you should really start a new one

306maxi said:

If you can't find a recent thread for the topic you want to discuss you should really start a new one

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A good point well made.

It does seem that's how it works

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscous_coupling_unit[/ame]

Though there is some confusion here because you don't actually get viscous diffs so to speak.

306maxi said:

It does seem that's how it works

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscous_coupling_unit

Though there is some confusion here because you don't actually get viscous diffs so to speak.

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theres no gears in it and nothing locks together or even touches for that matter the fluid does all the gigery pokery

The Sultan said:

theres no gears in it and nothing locks together or even touches for that matter the fluid does all the gigery pokery

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Ah yes you're right. I didn't read the post properly and didn't read when he mentioned about gears It's just plates of course and the fluid doing all the magic.

306maxi said:

Ah yes you're right. I didn't read the post properly and didn't read when he mentioned about gears It's just plates of course and the fluid doing all the magic.

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i had a mechanic last week telling me the fluid heats up and pushes clutch plates together locking it up lol complete fail he was saying it didnt make the coupe set off any better or corner better and pointed out the cars spin there wheels forever and ever :bang:

vauxhall astra vxr driver cluless

306maxi said:

If you can't find a recent thread for the topic you want to discuss you should really start a new one

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Why?