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Anyone know anything more about the limited edition 100HP advertised on fiatsupasaver?

(sorry for lack of URL, aren't allowed to post them for 4 more posts!)

Did a google on it, and came up with nothing. Am wondering if they've done any cosmetic tweaks. Is a shame it includes ESP, I get the impression it kind of spoils then fun, and you can't turn it off.

Am hoping to be a 100HP owner in the near future, it will be my first car. Can't resist what seems like an absolute bargain, for such a cool little car.

- Jaspar

I don't think what they are advertising is actually a 100HP Monster version... I think it's just the 100HP normal model... I don't know why they've advertised it as a Monster.

The Panda Monster was limited to a production of only 695 vehicles. It looked really good in black. Unfortunately, it was left-hand drive only, and it couldn't be conglomerated to UK spec. The lights were different and there was no right-hand drive version of them ever made. Several people on here had looked into getting one, but they couldn't...

Jaspar. If this is your first car then ESP should be seen as a good thing. ESP saves lives. As for it reducing the fun, what a load of cobblers, it cuts some of wheelspin, but with 100HP you won't be getting much of that unless you're brutal/not sympathetic to the car. What is does is reduce the "I'm going to die" feeling. It won't stop you if you want to drive beyond the limits on a public road Tiff Needell/Evo Magazine style. But on a wet road, when someone pulls out in front of you and you have to swerve you will be grateful the car is helping you.

and this is coming from someone who also drives TVRs...

Not many 100HPs in the UK have ESP as it is a pricey option. Mine does, plus side/window airbags. The only accidents I've been involved in are someone else shunting me up the rear (two occassions), so I'm not a 'post accident paranoid' person either.

Wee Smurf said:

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Trefor said:

But on a wet road, when someone pulls out in front of you and you have to swerve you will be grateful the car is helping you.

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I think you're confusing ESP and ABS, which all the Panda's have. Swerving around someone who's leapt in front of you will use steering, brakes and hence ABS.

Wee Smurf said:

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Ok... I meant homologated... Too busy thinking about what to wear tonight for the NIIMC Christmas dinner... Lol

Raify said:

I think you're confusing ESP and ABS, which all the Panda's have. Swerving around someone who's leapt in front of you will use steering, brakes and hence ABS.

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No, not really; ESP is above and beyond ABS. ABS simply stops the wheels locking which - like you say - helps you retain control. However ESP applies the brakes differentially to each wheel to reduce chronic understeer or - more dangerously - chronic oversteer.

As a for instance, imagine swerving to avoid someone on the motorway and ending up with two wheel on the central reservation and two wheels on the carraigeway. The ABS will prevent all four wheels locking, but it can't prevent the retardation being much more on the tarmac side than the grass side. The result would be the car in effect turning sharply left back across the motorway, almost certainly resulting in a very large 'tank-slapper' of a spin.

Expensive yes, but it could well save your life one day. No excuse for driving like an idiot though

I took my 100HP to a technical driving cours 2 weeks ago and I must say that the ESP in the 100HP isn't that intrusive. It's less intrusive than the ESP I had in my Stilo Multijet.
In the slalom it helps you a great deal. I simply floored it through the slalom and about half way through the ESP started to hlep me and it works very well.
Under normal (and slightly above normal) driving condition you'll never know you have ESP.
And this was on my winter tyres with temp. around 5C and a little wet.
With the normal summer tyres (Eagle F1) and warmer temp. I don't think you'll ever experience the ESP in action (at least you'll have to drive very aggressively).
You have to remember the ESP will only cut in when you're about to loos the backend by braking the individual rear wheels, but the Panda has very good traction (esp. on summer tyres in temp. above 10C) so it takes quite a lot to make the ESP react.
And after experiencing ESP in action (and how it can help you) during the technical course (this year in my Panda and last year in my old Stilo Multijet) I'll never buy a new car without ESP.

Thanks for all the replies!

I'm glad that the ESP isn't that intrusive, I wouldn't necessarily pay extra for it, but if it's included, no bad thing. I've asked FiatSuperSaver for further details on this model, as soon as I get a response, I'll post.

It is intruiging that they are advertising a model which isn't referenced anywhere else.

Is this the Fiat Monster

I presumed it was just a dealer calling it a 'monster' but it looks like it could be a genuine Fiat thing:

http://nuovapandahp.forumcommunity.net/?t=11185347

abarth_178 said:

I presumed it was just a dealer calling it a 'monster' but it looks like it could be a genuine Fiat thing:

http://.forumcommunity.net/?t=11185347

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I suspect that the owner has got some Monster badges off his local dealer, but I don't mind been corrected! No mention on the Italian website; may be our good friend Trecca from the Nuovapandahp forum can shed some light on this...

Spoke to my Fiat connections. There's no such thing as a Panda 100HP Monster. He's stuck badges on it.
Only Monster is the one WeeSmurf mentioned. And she looked very well at the Doo Didn't buy any drink though!

Yes Whippet that's the real Monster... Love the lights but they were never available right-hand drive.

The part number for the Monster badges is available on the ePer for sad people who want to pretend.

And Stuart gentlemen buy the ladies drinks first... :nerner: