Fit them before you leave or lower the seats and you should get 4 wheels and tyres in there [plus a jack!].
General Angel Tuning remap for my 100hp
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General Angel Tuning remap for my 100hp
I know a lot of grip can also be fun, guess I'm just a bit old school as I love to have the car moving around during cornering which does help you maximise the speed. I guess the worry when you've only got 100hp is that everything will just become flat out with sticky tyres. So I think you need the power to go with it if you run sticky tyres.
I can see your point and for example, BaT's Caterham Superlights were more 'fun' than my Megablade, albeit slower over a lap.
Given your comments about how long the Goodyear F1s last on track, I would have thought that more/sustained grip would be an improvement?
Stickier tyres may remove some of the challenge at a particular corner, but having more power alone just makes the bits in between the corners quicker.
Given your comments about how long the Goodyear F1s last on track, I would have thought that more/sustained grip would be an improvement?
Stickier tyres may remove some of the challenge at a particular corner, but having more power alone just makes the bits in between the corners quicker.
Where are the stats on the re-map option, has anyone actually done this and got rolling road details? I'd be interested to see them.
In terms of going quicker at trackdays, I'd recommend the following steps:
First, get some instruction. We'd all find a great deal of speed and satisfaction.
Then, and I'd question the need to go faster at a track day (also the Panda is never actually going to be "challenging" quick), I'd think about the brakes and tyres. I'd think about upgrading the brake pads before doing anything else - although the standard kit seems pretty good. With better tyres (i.e. those list 1b tyres like R888's / 048R's) you'd carry so much more speed through the corners and therefore down the straights. This would be far more effective than a remap. You'd easily fit a set of wheels in the car with the rear seats down - it's a van! Actually, has anyone bought a set of replacement wheels recently? You would also protect your street tyres from damage so it's quite a good investment.
Finally, I'd think about the re-map. And I'd only do this with "proof" of the upgrade.
In terms of going quicker at trackdays, I'd recommend the following steps:
First, get some instruction. We'd all find a great deal of speed and satisfaction.
Then, and I'd question the need to go faster at a track day (also the Panda is never actually going to be "challenging" quick), I'd think about the brakes and tyres. I'd think about upgrading the brake pads before doing anything else - although the standard kit seems pretty good. With better tyres (i.e. those list 1b tyres like R888's / 048R's) you'd carry so much more speed through the corners and therefore down the straights. This would be far more effective than a remap. You'd easily fit a set of wheels in the car with the rear seats down - it's a van! Actually, has anyone bought a set of replacement wheels recently? You would also protect your street tyres from damage so it's quite a good investment.
Finally, I'd think about the re-map. And I'd only do this with "proof" of the upgrade.
Well yes there is that. Don't forget trackdays aren't about setting laptimes, they are about having fun. Sure the F1s are crap for track use, I'd just go with Yoko S-Drives or similar.
I recall having a ride in a friends ITR shod with 888s, it was boring in all honesty, the car didn't move around at all. I was running OEM RE010's and was quicker anyway and it was far more fun as I could move the car around and steer it on the throttle. I think for people to gain an understanding of handling and four wheel drifting etc, you don't want to have so much grip that you never get to that point.
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I've been looking at brakes but all that is coming up are greenstuff pads and tarox (which i've heard alot of bad reviews about), but on the italian and NL sites i've seen people mention that you can get ferodo DS2500 pads but i can't find any where in the UK that stock them which is a shame as i've used them before and they were brill.
Also you mention tyres, i don't want to be swapping over tyres, i just want to drive to a track day hassle free. Also you learn how the car behaves on trackdays so i'd like to learn with my everyday road tyres and not just tyres which will JUST be used for trackdays if you know what i mean.
I'd agree as well. Track days should be fun, low hassle and as low cost as possible. I think it's best to accept that the Panda is a low speed but very fun car - exactly what it was designed to be.
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I know it is a low speed car especially after coming from a 270bhp car and a 240bhp car, i'm not looking at breaking land speed records but i think that the panda is very capable of handling more power, then it will be extra extra FUN!!
if that is possible
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I've been looking at brakes but all that is coming up are greenstuff pads and tarox (which i've heard alot of bad reviews about)
Greenstuff pads work well bur at a price, they munch discs (copper strands in the pad material)
copper kills steel i thought copper was softer than steel
ive been running green stuff pads for years on red dot discs, no problems yet
i thought copper was softer than steelive been running green stuff pads for years on red dot discs, no problems yet
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Can only go by my experience, maybe i had poor quality discs ?
Definitely heard of others not rating Greenstuff, go to admit they were good initially though.
Definitely heard of others not rating Greenstuff, go to admit they were good initially though.
was you on oem disks? lots of threads on here moaning they dont last long even with standard pads
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Not oem discs but, star pattern grooved Brembo G-max ! Was stunned to see how much they had worn but, by that time the car was sold on and besides that, those particular discs cost only cost £50 the pair at the time, that was quite a few moons ago though.
For what it's worth I have changed all 4 discs on my 4x4 for Tarox G88s and use Greenstuff pads too. I have to say that they work brilliantly on the Panda and have excellent feel, good ultimate stopping power and remarkable fade resistance. In fact I think the braking on the Panda is way beyond what you'd expect of a cheap car, in my experience anyway. Can't beat lightness of course....
All I need now is for the car to go fast enough to warrant such excellent stoppers......
Phil G
All I need now is for the car to go fast enough to warrant such excellent stoppers......
Phil G
