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195 65 15

2014 Panda cross currently running 185 65 15 standard winter tyres all round on Panda Cross 15" alloys. I cannot find a definitive answer regarding if a 195 65 15 standard winter tyre would fit without rubbing on wheel arch liners etc
Are there any Cross owners with this as a long term set up able to confirm please?
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Re: 195 65 15

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2014 Panda cross currently running 185 65 15 standard winter tyres all round on Panda Cross 15" alloys. I cannot find a definitive answer regarding if a 195 65 15 standard winter tyre would fit without rubbing on wheel arch liners etc
Are there any Cross owners with this as a long term set up able to confirm please?
This would normally be my "go to" reference but Cross not explicitly noted although if you assume 4x4 then that should be correct and I don't see 195/65/15 at first glance.

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Re: 195 65 15

In order to allow the standard 185/65 tyres to be used, Fiat use a different wheel offset on the Cross compared to all the other Pandas. This allows the wheels on full lock to miss (just) the subframe. On the 4x4 (non Cross), the edge of the subframe are machined away (by Fiat) to give room... These two factors show that the clearance is 'tight'. In the rear wheel arch (again based on my 4x4) there is very little room between the 'back' of the tyres and the wheel arch liner...

In passing: Generally, winter tyres work better when narrower, not wider, as this allows the car to 'cut down' through snow etc to reach the road beneath. This is one good reason why the 4x4 uses 175 width.

I know this doesn't answer the question, but shows the clearances are all pretty tight.
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