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Old 16-04-2021   #16
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Re: Broken back axle AGAIN!

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Re: Broken back axle AGAIN!

Quote Originally Posted by bimmer View Post
My Rumanian mate brought his van and welding gear to the middle of
nowhere.
Put a ratchet strap between the axle hubs to close the gap and a jack to align the two parts.
Plenty of sparks and it was done. Some anti corrosion black paint, wheel on.
IF this cracks again we are going to bridge the weld by 100mm each side with a 4mm x 25mm plate on the lower inner edge. We have a plan.

And why does the forum rotate every photo 90deg?
Now this REALLY interests me - a lot. Can you keep us updated on how the repair works out over time?

With the spring pans being such a known weakness and having my own welding gear I've thought I might attempt a welded repair if Becky ever succumbs to the "rear axle gremlins". The reason I'm so interested is that the beam, I guess, must be more similar to a spring steel than a straight mild steel, and the problem this causes when you try to weld it with simple "DIY" type plant, is that it becomes very brittle around the weld, so I would expect it to crack again quite soon after repair.

I've got my fingers crossed for you.
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Now this REALLY interests me - a lot. Can you keep us updated on how the repair works out over time?

With the spring pans being such a known weakness...
Only when the drain holes in the bottom of them become blocked and salty water sits in them. They seem to get small stones in the holes very easily and mud then seals around these. A good jet from the hose now and again keeps these happy. Red circle shows one of them.
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Quote Originally Posted by bimmer View Post
My Rumanian mate brought his van and welding gear to the middle of
nowhere.
Put a ratchet strap between the axle hubs to close the gap and a jack to align the two parts.
Plenty of sparks and it was done. ...
You might get away with that there, but a UK MOT inspector should fail that without question!
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Only when the drain holes in the bottom of them become blocked and salty water sits in them. They seem to get small stones in the holes very easily and mud then seals around these. A good jet from the hose now and again keeps these happy. Red circle shows one of them.

I've sprayed waxoyl in.
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...And why does the forum rotate every photo 90deg?
Only the 'preview' thumbnails are rotated - click on them and they are correct when they open full size. It seems to do this will all images taken on an iPhone. Often if they are landscape (wide) photos, they appear here upside down!
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I've sprayed waxoyl in.
I nearly added in my message about the drain holes - 'beware spraying Waxoyl or similar into them, as this tends to clog the holes with a sticky residue which makes them block up even more easily'... but didn't
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I nearly added in my message about the drain holes - 'beware spraying Waxoyl or similar into them, as this tends to clog the holes with a sticky residue which makes them block up even more easily'... but didn't
Spot on.
You can use waxoyl but make sure the holes are clear. I've been using Lanoguard, it's quite thin and doesn't seem to clog.
How well it stands up in time is another story that as yet I don't know.
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Herts Hillhopper: Well that is the great unknown with the test requirement here. If I could be arsed I could trawl the Test manual for here but I'd rather leave it to the tester on the day in December.
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Hi.
I remember the beam in my lounge and when cleaning it up and waxoyling it how I thought it quite a little thin on the metal front. This one on the City cross is decidedly thicker, the mounts are the same and I would think it would still fit with sufficient clearance with the standard springs. If you are interested I can take more pictures and take measurements.
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If you are interested I can take more pictures and take measurements.
And that's why this is such a great forum.
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murphyv310: Thanks for the offer but I will look out for any Pandas when I visit the scrappies, just to be nosey and ask how much they would want for one.
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murphyv310: Thanks for the offer but I will look out for any Pandas when I visit the scrappies, just to be nosey and ask how much they would want for one.
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No problem. It's actually raining here so my plan was to take photos and measurements either tomorrow or Tuesday. I'll do it anyway in case anyone else wants the info.
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Do all 2wd Pandas suffer this at some point?
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Do all 2wd Pandas suffer this at some point?
I think Bimmer's is the only one ever seen on this forum, and that's been used on the less than perfect mountain roads of Malaga.
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