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Old 29-06-2019   #1
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Winter Tyres

Now that Iíve got a new Panda and itís more realistic to assume itíll last for another 10 years, itís finally not a bad idea to invest in winter tyres. Though other than looking for good tyres, Iíll also assumably need four new steel wheels of the right spec.

Where can I get good steels?
Also, might as well get a fifth for a spare too.

I was planning on using KwikFit if I were to order tyres via them, assuming I tell them I want my wheel trims to be unharmed and can literally watch through the viewing window as they do it!

Do you need to store the unused set of tyres anywhere special, or is garden shed in the shade good enough?

What sort of winter tyres do you recommend and why?

For summers I plan on using the factory Good years and buying the same each time renewal comes around. Iím convinced itís worth having a set despite the fact we never get snow due to the temperature and the days and days of wet roads and the difference that makes.

How often do your winter tyres tend to last and when is right to switch over?
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Re: Winter Tyres

These guys are good for wheels, and tyres if you can get them fitted, but many tyre shops will not fit your own tyres.
https://www.oponeo.co.uk/

As with summer tyres, a reasonable brand name will be fine. When browsing the long list of brands, pop each into Google and see who the parent company is. Any minor brand owned by a major will be fine.
e.g. Kleber, Riken and Tigar are owned by Michelin.
Semperit and Uniroyal are owned by Continental.
Firestone and Dunlop are part of the Bridgestone empire.

Avoid Kwik-Fit.

Storage needs to be in the dark, to prevent premature ageing.
Ideally, on their side, but the wheels supported so not resting on the tyres.
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/F...xoCN_kQAvD_BwE
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153473486291
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Re: Winter Tyres

I'd avoid that horrible tyre place. There's a lot of much better independents around who'll give you a good price.

I used Continental WinterContacts on the yellow peril. They were good but not very hard wearing. I then tried Michelin Alpins and they were great - not as noisy, longer wearing. I then however had to revert back to Continentals as I couldn't get the right size anymore in Michelin. I did like them better second time around as they had been upgraded in the years in between.

I tend to use a local place and pre-order my tyres a week before I need them. I've already got my second set of wheels for Max the Mito.
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Re: Winter Tyres

Just out of interest... Is there much difference in size between the 14s alloys on the 169 and the 312 Panda?
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Re: Winter Tyres

How much tread remaining on existing tyres? Toyo and Avon summer tyres in my experience being super soft were decent in cold weather and snow at least in the short term. All season tyres could be useful. Standard Goodyear on this shape Panda okay in cold weather (until try braking in snow).

This useful. https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rs...hoCxFEQAvD_BwE

These as good as you'd get. https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rs...n&typ=R-280066
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Quote Originally Posted by portland_bill View Post
These guys are good for wheels, and tyres if you can get them fitted, but many tyre shops will not fit your own tyres.
https://www.oponeo.co.uk/

As with summer tyres, a reasonable brand name will be fine. When browsing the long list of brands, pop each into Google and see who the parent company is. Any minor brand owned by a major will be fine.
e.g. Kleber, Riken and Tigar are owned by Michelin.
Semperit and Uniroyal are owned by Continental.
Firestone and Dunlop are part of the Bridgestone empire.

Avoid Kwik-Fit.

Storage needs to be in the dark, to prevent premature ageing.
Ideally, on their side, but the wheels supported so not resting on the tyres.
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/F...xoCN_kQAvD_BwE
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153473486291
Dunlop belong to the Goodyear empire not Bridgestone.
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Re: Winter Tyres

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Quote Originally Posted by Wee Smurf View Post
Just out of interest... Is there much difference in size between the 14s alloys on the 169 and the 312 Panda?
Nope, both 5.5x14Ē ET/offset 35, pcd 4x98, centre hole 58.1
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Nope, both 5.5x14Ē ET/offset 35, pcd 4x98, centre hole 58.1
In that case Shane, if you're after a set of 14' alloys from a 169 Panda, I have a complete set with centres and locking wheel bolts available if you're interested. They currently have Uniroyal Rainexpert tyres on, three of which are almost new and the fourth is new with stickers still on. You might be able to do a deal somewhere with the tyres? I was going to put them on Gumtree for £200 as the tyres are basically new.
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In that case Shane, if you're after a set of 14' alloys from a 169 Panda, I have a complete set with centres and locking wheel bolts available if you're interested. They currently have Uniroyal Rainexpert tyres on, three of which are almost new and the fourth is new with stickers still on. You might be able to do a deal somewhere with the tyres? I was going to put them on Gumtree for £200 as the tyres are basically new.
Are you 100% theyíll fit and be safe on the newer shape Panda? If theyíre about come September Iíd be happy to buy them. But I know thatís a bit far off now. Just as Iíve just bought the car keeping expenses on the low for a while. But still planning hence the thread!
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Are you 100% theyíll fit and be safe on the newer shape Panda? If theyíre about come September Iíd be happy to buy them. But I know thatís a bit far off now. Just as Iíve just bought the car keeping expenses on the low for a while. But still planning hence the thread!
Shane. If you want them, I've no problem in holding on to them. They're only sitting at the side of my garage beside the 13s with the continental WinterContacts I've not gotten around to advertising yet either! One day I'll get organised
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Re: Winter Tyres

Thinking about it... Perhaps having three sets of wheels for one car was a wee bit excessive.

I'll stick with just the two sets for Max.
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Re: Winter Tyres

probably too late but I now always / only use Nokians after reviewing Autobild and other similar winter tyre tests on line. Buy through Tyre leader and find a local friendly garage to fit.
The Nokians are superb in the winter / snow and have been developed by the Scandinavians who know what they are doing. Panda is almost unstoppable with these and we use them all year now - easy, just a little noisier perhaps but they are wearing really well / surprisingly slowly
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Re: Winter Tyres

Buy a set of good late panda alloys, fit the winter tyres to your existing steel wheels.

Wait till the current tyres need replacing.

90% of the time you don’t need winter tyres here in the U.K. so it’s fine to carry on with your current tyres till they actually need replacing. I would recommend nokians as well I had them on my Punto and they where exceptional in the cold weather.
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Cool Re: Winter Tyres

Personally with UK weather
Unless you live in the Scottish Highlands id just stick up with all seasons
If you live in Scotland I'd day winter's are a necessity
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