General My 2017 Fiat Panda Easy 1.2

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General My 2017 Fiat Panda Easy 1.2

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Hi, just starting a new thread in this section to keep sort of a running log of my soon-to-be 2017 Fiat Panda Easy. Hope this is allowed and not seen as spam of the section!

Just got off the phone with Motorpoint whose moving it to Glasgow from Burnley for me. The financial side is all sorted and now I'm waiting for the call that it's ready to collect so I can fly from NI to Glasgow and spend a day bringing it back.

It's Darkwave Black with the optional steering wheel mounted controls and Bluetooth / Phone connection UConnect kit.

I can't wait!!!

Will post more updates as they happen... this thread will document the life and journey of this new Panda - which I intend to keep until it's ready to fall apart.
 
Hi, just starting a new thread in this section to keep sort of a running log of my soon-to-be 2017 Fiat Panda Easy. Hope this is allowed and not seen as spam of the section!

Just got off the phone with Motorpoint whose moving it to Glasgow from Burnley for me. The financial side is all sorted and now I'm waiting for the call that it's ready to collect so I can fly from NI to Glasgow and spend a day bringing it back.

It's Darkwave Black with the optional steering wheel mounted controls and Bluetooth / Phone connection UConnect kit.

I can't wait!!!

Will post more updates as they happen... this thread will document the life and journey of this new Panda - which I intend to keep until it's ready to fall apart.

1. Download LapseitPro on phone
2. Record timelapse during journey with phone in holster and plugged into USB
3. Compile edgy youtube video with obscure rock track. Post here.
 
I got it!!!

I can honestly say I love it. And other than being terrified at the prospect of a nearly new, like new condition car, I have no bad feelings whatsoever. Glad I followed the heart and not the head!

Wish the Fiat forum app was still on iPhone so I could post some photos, will do it on my computer later!
 
Okay, until I get some photos up, here's my report of the 'maiden voyage', and I'll add as much detail as possible for you lot who have the time to read through it!


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Flew from Belfast to Glasgow on Monday morning, swiftly used the 'Uber' app for the first time to get a ride from the airport to Motorpoint on the other side of the city. Handy big motorway got us there quick. Appointment for collection was at 2pm, got there for 1pm. The staff were quite good and a woman from admin came over to get us sorted out much earlier. However the complimentary coffee and really nice showroom meant I was in no rush! A nice change from the pushy dealers at Donnelly & Taggart in NI, and the machine coffee I've never been eligible for ;-). There was a beautiful little mint Fiat 500 Lounge in the showroom, too girly for me but definitely worthy of its monumental position.. Back on topic..


So, took a look at the car. Was a dull rainy day, so not ideal for a good look over it. But me and a friend took a good look at the panel gaps and for any major dents, all looked good. I don't know what they used, but it's incredibly well waxed and cleaned. Unfortunately, no mats or spare wheel.. but I've ordered some eBay tailored mats for now.


I took the car for a drive, same as my granny's 1.2 Pop! Thankfully I had the experience of that to use as a benchmark. Everything seemed all good, and decided to go for it and sign off the purchase. Bit of hassle sorting the tax with me having an NI license apparently, but got it handled by Motorpoint. They were very helpful and whilst there was definitely a little bit of 'get it done before the next appointment', they understood I wanted a good drive and time to inspect the car myself without being rushed. The car was officially mine, and we set off for Glasgow city centre.


After this I got accustomed to the car on a 2 hour trip to Cairnryan through the Scottish countryside. Here's what I thought:


The new Panda is definitely bigger feeling inside. Feels put together really well, and 'heavier duty', even the steering wheel and indicator stalks etc. Found the instrument cluster is always lit now, no more sidelights? So it's on/off lighting. Handy. Also like the new wiper controls, easier to get the right speed without engaging the fast speed accidentally as easy. The new dials are easier to read than I was expecting.


I absolutely love the steering wheel controls, bluetooth and new trip computer! Being able to answer / make calls in the car and control my phone safely was my most wanted feature in my next car. Though I'd prefer if the voice button just activated Siri rather than using a limited command Fiat system. But I'm happy! Sadly it's not a leather steering wheel, but still feels great to me. I like the shape of the wheel and the horn. The horn, from what I've tried, sounds more grown up too. My old Panda's horn suited it lol


On the motorway got the chance to push 85mph briefly, though I was, if anything, driving pretty slow that day getting used to the new clutch out of junctions and following the new gear shift indicator so I didn't over rev or 'abuse it'. The new Panda is FAR more stable, a good bit more quiet and doesn't feel like it's on the edge vs the older shape.


This car is definitely slower, and much less responsive than my 05 Panda. Though a 1.4 Corsa I drove, and a few 208's were all the same, so I suspect all 'economical small petrols' are now this way. Though if in practice, this does save fuel (especially as I'll stick to the gear shift indicator) then I'm happy with it. I'm happy to tolerate this because it's much easier to drive the new Panda properly, more cautiously and slowly. Not to a dangerous extent, thankfully.


I did the 'steer test' to confirm, and it's much better at staying up, but just enough fun to still be an Italian car at heart. In some turns as I got near the ferry in Scotland, I'd have been pushing my old Panda VERY hard and to be honest, risk crashing / understeer or similar... but this Panda handled it well. Main theme being it's better at staying upright, much more planted to the road and less 'on the edge'.


There's a definite flat spot in first, which throws you slightly forward, in want of a better worse. Handy for crawling in traffic, but (and I haven't done it yet) I doubt it would be as possible to slip out fast from a junction... I did this too much in the other Panda, and I'd say about 1-in-10 times chanced my life since, after all, beyond being nippy off the line in the city it was still a slow car and couldn't sustain it when the oncoming traffic (bigger cars) often could (and boy, they sure do fly!). In this Panda, I'll be taking more time and driving it within its limitations - something a lot of guys with bigger, faster cars would probably regard as a dealbreaker and poor performing car, but to me it's perfectly fine and I'm going to use it as a chance to slow down and be safer.


The interior is nice and shady with the black plastics and the grey dashboard really is a little nicer than I expected, but I'd have loved red / blue / cream from the pre-16 models if it were an option. The red stitching on the seats is nice too. And I find the head restraints to be a little more comfy without the hole. I love the huge mirrors, less need to focus in! There's still no mirror on the driver sun visor, but that's fine (it's not a 500 I guess) lol


The gear change is nice and short and sharp since the car is much newer. Still adapting to the new clutch and driving of the revised 1.2, but it's going well so far. I have to wait for the car to idle for a while before putting it in reverse if I want it to slip in without a hitch. There's sometimes a bit of bite back / crunch? Sometimes the pedals when you lift your foot off quick sound like a long metal rod sliding of something. I'm sure I've experienced this in the 15 Pop too though so it must be by design.


There's a rattle coming from the back, and I can't work out where it's coming from. Sometime metallic and bouncing up and down though. That's with an empty boot too. Any ideas?

When I got the car home, spent the next evening turtle waxing it all up to see if I could get it to shine more. And washing it got a TONNE of dead insects off the front. I've always wanted to do this and get 'like new' finish, and now I can with this much newer car. Though I still took every bit of pride in my last Panda too, but it was an old and battered car.


There's signs of many small stone chips that have been fixed up with the right paint, but very much look like fresh tiny water drops that you can rub and don't disappear... There is also one dent that's been pulled out on the passenger door, but is only noticeable if you look up the side on a dry day and pay attention to the reflection. The car has never been repainted or had any panels (so not been crashed as far as we can tell), just looks like someone opened the door into a lam post or something. No cracked paint, and was repaired 'good' I would say. Wheel trims are also all perfect condition and panel gaps all good. If on the off chance it was damaged, it'd certainly have been the best repair job I've ever seen.. but it looks good. I suppose it is still two years old and not unreasonable. The 208s I considered all had a LOT of stone chips on the bonnet (un-repaired) and the Corsa I looked at was completely crashed and repaired badly unfortunately.. but all in all I'd say this is a great shape car.


The reality kicks in now though... before, I could go anywhere and park anywhere. If anybody damaged my car or had kids who opened their door into it, I'd just say 'never worry'. Not that I didn't care for the car but didn't lose sleep over it or get angry at people for it! If it was a genuine accident. I have to do my best to keep this car in as good shape as possible now, as it's in great shape today but now rests on me to keep it that way! I'm worried I'll screw it up. Hate leaving it in car parks now too, just in case! I've never had this fear before, but all the times I made fun of my friends for parking at the back of the car park is coming back to me as a sound way of thinking... :cry:

I love this car though. I'm going to degrease, clean and wax even the insides of the doors soon... and other pointless, but caring jobs to preserve it's condition as much as I can. Decided against waxoyl underneath it. Though it has a rusty exhaust pipe already, but looks very familiar and easy to work with like my last Panda. Though this time, no tampering by mechanics. So I hope that after a few years of low hassle motoring, when it does need some parts, it'll be a little easier to work with. I'm going to keep it 100% Fiat or Magnetti Marelli too. Or look on ePer to see what factory suppliers and parts were used when necessary.


I aim to keep it until it's 10 years old. Though my family, who have now accepted that I have went and bought another Fiat, still hope that 'in a few years when you're making more money you'll have that car traded in in no time'... I think I'll still keep it, but perhaps get rid of it at 10 when I acquired my last Panda. That's if the Italian built Panda's hold up as well as our Polish 169 models. I don't see why not? Fiat claim it's one of the most advanced factories (in the world?).


Tl;dr: This Panda is simply 'an improvement' in every way compared to my old model. And I love it!
 
Congratulations on your purchase; I think you've bought the right car for you.

Personally I'd prioritise rustproofing the sump and the rear beam; doing those two things will likely add another five years to the useful life of the car.
 
Congratulations on your purchase; I think you've bought the right car for you.

Personally I'd prioritise rustproofing the sump and the rear beam; doing those two things will likely add another five years to the useful life of the car.

Would spraying both with tar remover and then painting over them with a thick layer of Waxoyl do the trick?
 
Checked the oil today, and coolant. The coolant is a good bit above the MAX marking. I’ve never added any since buying it from Motorpoint. Is this okay or should I find a way to drain it down? It was first thing in the morning , flat ground, cold day, no starts yet.
 
Time has come to service the new Panda. I'm quite pleased with the fact that it's still 100% "Fiat" as nothing has fallen off yet and needed to be replaced (I'm sure the day is coming).


I'm going to go by the book in terms of what I'll buy. I'm going beyond the book (which bizarely says we can wait 24 months between services) and doing it every 7,000 miles, 10,000 if needed between changing the oil and filters. Which should work out around twice per year with my mileage.


Here's the shopping list:


Petronas Selenia K Pure Energy 5W-40 oil as recommended by Fiat. £11~ per 1L tin from the dealer, not so bad as only online options seem to be from Italy or Germany and postage to reflect that. 3 litres should cover it.

Fiat original cabin filter, air filter and oil filter. They're just a few £ more than reputable options like Bosch / Mapco etc. So for that, why not go for the originals.


Should come to around £70.


Filters and oil then. As for antifreeze and brake fluid and anything else, how often should I make a point to 'replace these', I have it in my head every 5 years for the pink antifreeze - is that right?


Should I add anything else?
 
Selena oil from U.K. supplier (note dealer £11 is plus VAT)
https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Results&category=8&secondary=88&opts=1184
You’ll find the other parts in that site too...

I've used Shop4Parts before, and with the FF discount code. Great supplier, though the postage to NI is a little bit steep.


I managed to see Castrol Edge 5W-40 with the Fiat spec on the back for £37 at Asda last night for 4L , versus 3x £11.20 + VAT 1L bottles at the dealer so went for that. Hopefully it'll be as good as Selenia, I can't see it not being so. (unless Selenia has special Italian olive oil additives that my car now will not be benefitteting from!) lol
 
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