Technical Wiper fuse location

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Technical Wiper fuse location

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Hi all
I searched the forum, the internet and the owner's manual but couldn;t find where the Wiper's fuse is located in my 2013 Panda.
I came back from vacation to filnd my battery is flat, when I connected the aux battery the wipers started working and the key wasn't in the ignition and the stalk in the off position.
In order to stop them I want to pull out their fuse, but in the manual there are less fuses described then the number of fuses I have in the two boxes in the car.
Does anyone know which is the wipers fuse location in the 2013 Panda?
Thanks in advanced.
 
The trouble is, these days, many things that had a fuse of their own in 'older' cars, do not in newer ones. Because modern cars use a computer unit to control most of the electrical items, it is less easy... when you turn the wiper switch on, it no longer connects 12v straight to the wiper motor via a dedicated fuse. Instead, when the switch is on, it tells the computer to operate the relay that makes the wipers work. Similarly, the switch that turns the inside light on actulaly tells the computer to operate the light, and it will automatically turn it off after 15 minutes, even though you left the switch on. (This control system is called CanBus)


First up, because your battery was completely dead, when you've connected an external battery (which may not deliver the full voltage and current)to start the car, the computer is not able to control things properly: that would explain why the wipers came on, even though the switch was 'off'. (This is also why 'random warning lights' may show up in cars - when the battery voltage is low – generally when the battery is getting old – the systems get confused by reduced voltages). If your auxilarry battery was one of those that you connect to the car via the cigar lighter socket, this can lead to odd things too, as you are 'injecting' 12v into the circuits on the 'wrong side' of the control computer...

Secondly, there are at least three fuses that 'cover' the items the computer is turning on and off - they are listed in the hand book as being the '+15' fuses. (Note: this doesn't mean they are control 15volt circuits - there is a convention in car wiring that the circuit turned on by operating the ignition key is numbered '15', and those that remain live when the key is off as '30') - so you will likely need to remove all three (from memory, so do check, those fuses are numbered 50, 51 and 52 in the fuse box at the back of the glovebox... and there is another one under the bonnet).

However, better solution is to disconnect the battery in the car and recharge it fully (take care if you have stop/start - there are specific instructions to avoid damaging the battery voltage monitor on those cars - see the handbook!). Once the battery is recharged, when it is reconnected, the computer should be 'happy' as it has the full voltage and your wipers (and other circuits) should behave themselves...
 
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
Indeed the auxiliary battery was low.
I had other cars with CANBUS and they had fuse for each circuit.
In my Panda I have fuses in both boxes that are not described in the owner manual. For instance F82 is described as sunroof motor, it is present but I don't have sunroof in my car...
After I had charged my auxiliary battery I was able to start the car and went for a 40 minutes drive to fill the battery. I hope this will do the trick.
Does anyone have a complete fuse layout of a 2013 Panda?
 
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