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So those are the only marks on the car (the black trim?). So they've tried buffing it out which hasn't worked? Do bear in mind you could come back to it in a car park post repair and that trim could be in a worse state. Trying Back To Black worth a go, then just forget it.
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It's an offroad car - my 4x4 wears its mud and scratches from byway hedges with pride! It looks more in keeping with its 'ruffty-tuffy' bodywork, and has been like that since about a week after I got it (brand new)

https://www.quattroruote.it/prove/20...nda_cross.html

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Reversible ? Fit them upside down on RHD ?
Er, no, because then the deep 'well' to contain water and mud will be underneath...
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I'm with Linzilou on this. The fact that she might drive it into a hedge and scratch it to blazes the day after collecting it, or that someone might scrape it in a car park, is completely beside the point!

Frankly, if either of you two guys had been asked to accept a new vehicle with scuff marks, I reckon you'd both be screaming blue murder at the dealer. Am I right or am I right?
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@gar074 my 2 Pandas new in 2015 and 2017, first ended up getting tar on it and narrowly avoided the floods. Second got hit by flying stone and had 4 stone chips on bottom of drivers door inside 3 weeks. My current TA 4x4 was commuted in and lived on a farm in Northumberland for 2 years. Had to have wheels balanced day after collection due to amount of dried mud on the insides. Unfortunately if want a museum piece I fear will never drive it again......

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If i scratch my car that's a different matter. I'm certain that with wear and tear that will happen. However this car was brand new. I've paid a premium for that and won't accept scuffs on something that should untarnished. But i guess we are all different. I'd have bought a cheaper used car if i'd wanted scuffs and scrapes.
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@Linzilou see if you can see where that piece of trim bolts or screws into. As suspect they'll order a new one and fairly easily swapped.
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What is this nonsense?
Just that---nonsense, but meant to be funny.
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I'm with Linzilou on this. The fact that she might drive it into a hedge and scratch it to blazes the day after collecting it, or that someone might scrape it in a car park, is completely beside the point!

Frankly, if either of you two guys had been asked to accept a new vehicle with scuff marks, I reckon you'd both be screaming blue murder at the dealer. Am I right or am I right?
Yes, you're right - Id be insisting that they replaced that trim piece
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@Linzilou see if you can see where that piece of trim bolts or screws into. As suspect they'll order a new one and fairly easily swapped.
I can't quite work out which part that is from the angle the photo was taken at... I think that's the black trim on the front bumper, where it comes up to meet the wheelarch? If so, it's a separate price, easy to remove (designed to get knocked) - part '8' in this link (this is for the regular 4x4 but pretty sure that piece the same on the Cross too). There is a single 'star' clip holding the upper end in place and the bottom edge hooks into the lower part of the bumper trim - easy to remove, so get the dealer to do it at their expense! (about 40 for the part) https://www.fiatdalys.lt/en/catalog/parts/707/26/10/2/33/31917M051870/ZFA31200003210975/0/0/0/front-bumper-
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I've attached a pic of my new car. I do love it despite the stress of the dealership fiasco. I'm a little sad over the demise of the cd player. I'm not very tech savvy.
I' not tech savvy either and I wanted the CD player. Despite the fact the CD player was available on a cheaper version (than my TA 4x4) dealers said it could not be fitted. So I have some kit I don't use . Pity

I previously bought a 500X which was delivered missing a number of bits , and the Dealer (not the one I got the Panda from) was hopelessly unhelpful
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I went to collect my Panda Waze 4x4 today. ... It should come with floor mats as standard according to the website but there weren't any so currently in dispute about getting these.
The online configurator is notoriously bad at listing the wrong things* - because the system behind it has to work in all countries, but different countries get different specs. The only 'accurate' place to see what is included is the UK-specific price list, here https://www.fiat.co.uk/content/dam/f...April_2019.pdf - and in there, no mention of mats at all. (see page 55 of the PDF file)

* and, the 'legal' section of the website states that it may not be accurate: "12. Products offered for sale may differ from those described or illustrated on this website due to later production changes in specification, components or place of manufacture. The contents of this website are therefore not to be treated as representation as to the current availability of products or services as described or as to products actually offered for sale."
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I'm still confused about what the Waze is. Mine clearly has Cross written on the side strips.
Your car is a Panda Cross - but the 'special edition' that Fiat have produced to promote the free-to-use Waze sat nav phone app (so Fiat will be being paid by Waze for the publicity they are giving to the owners of Waze - Google!). The littel blue car logo on the front wings is the Waze app's logo.

Originally only sold as a 2 wheel drive version, based on the 'City Cross', Fiat later (and only for a very short time) offered the Waze with 4 wheel drive at no extra cost to celebrate the 'real' Panda Cross being selected as 4x4 SUV of the year by 4x4 Magazine. I think (but may be wrong) that the 4x4 Waze was UK specific?

In creating the Waze version of the Cross 4x4, Fiat have reduced costs by leaving out several things that are normally in the 'true' Cross, such as climate control, alloy wheels, leather steering wheel etc. They also leave off some of the 'trim' pieces that make the Cross stand out (like red tow hooks on the front, or shiny silver bits on the bumpers). But what you have got is all the good bits that make the 4x4 Pandas cost much more more than the two wheel drive Panda, but at the price of a two wheel drive: a very good value 4x4 car as a result.

(See Fiat's Waze press release and 4x4Mag's SUV of the year award. This page shows how Fiat sees the Panda Waze as being the 'social media car' https://www.fiat.com/panda/panda-waze ... its all about 'being connected')
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Just that---nonsense, but meant to be funny.
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Certainly not offended - but more bemused than amused.
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So those are the only marks on the car (the black trim?). So they've tried buffing it out which hasn't worked? Do bear in mind you could come back to it in a car park post repair and that trim could be in a worse state. Trying Back To Black worth a go, then just forget it.
Someone's just paid a premium for a new car and it turns up looking like that, without mats that are listed on the spec list and is handed over in a hurry by a member of staff who couldn't give a damn, working for a dealership who doesn't appear to care much either, and you're suggesting the customer buy an off-the-shelf product to use and then just forget about it? 'Those are the only marks' - there shouldn't be any blo*dy marks! Unbelievable response

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I'm with Linzilou on this. The fact that she might drive it into a hedge and scratch it to blazes the day after collecting it, or that someone might scrape it in a car park, is completely beside the point!

Frankly, if either of you two guys had been asked to accept a new vehicle with scuff marks, I reckon you'd both be screaming blue murder at the dealer. Am I right or am I right?
This, 10,000% this!
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