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Old 13-01-2019   #1
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My New City Cross

Hi all, been lurking the forums for the past few months, finally posting my ride!

TL;DR - my new Panda City Cross!

The Car

1.2 petrol, Black, spacesaver wheel, 60/40 seats - not a massive spec list but it's inkeeping with the simple car!

My thoughts after a month:
  • so much easier to park, and get in and out of everywhere without worrying about scraping or curbing expensive wheels
  • very comfortable interior and seating positioning - I do a lot of trail running so to not have to climb down in to a car after running for 3 hours in the cold and mud is pure luxury
  • very easy to drive, in traffic or motorway speed
  • bigger than the last generation of Panda, space for 5 people comfortably
The only issue I've found so far is the bonnet catch not working when dropping the bonnet to close - it needs a hefty push after dropping to get it to catch. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this?

I have some additions to the car planned:
  • some interior accessories for storage - a seatback storage pouch as some things like sunglasses do rattle a bit
  • mud guards
  • roof rack and roofbox & bike rack (after spending a few days in Norway last autumn I'm fully set on spending a little more and getting a very slimline roofbox rather than a cheap Halfords job)
I'm also planning to head to the Alps in late summer in the car, pictures will definitely follow that!

The Buying Story (the ramble)


I had been driving a modified Honda (as tasteful as a modified Honda can be, I stand behind all the parts being quality and from legitimate companies - no fake wheels or exhausts) whilst it was great fun to drive it was completely impractical. My mind was fully set on a new car when I drove to Ireland with my girlfriend in the summer and her 15 year old Aygo could fit more luggage in, and could actually get on/off the ferry without scraping - coilovers are cool until you get stuck!

My first thought was the new Suzuki Jimny. I'd be using the car to about 10% of its offroading potential but it does look very cool. However internet speculation and hype meant that the early indications of a £13k-£15k base price were way off the mark, and the issue of basically no rear seats meant that for carrying more than 2 people it would be no more practical than the Honda.

Whilst watching videos of the Jimny I started getting YouTube suggestions for the Panda, in various trims. I'd had a 2006 Panda Eco that I bought from my parents as my first car, and whilst it had been sold on after a few electrical issues that lead to me not trusting the car I did love how easy and practical it was.

I test drove a Panda in the midlands, a few hundred miles from home but close to my girlfriend at university and the salesman at the dealer was actually a genuinely nice guy (like all of us I've had some frustrating experiences - the local Honda dealer is well known in the area for being terrible at communication). I almost left that day with a Panda Waze, the part-ex for my Honda was actually quite good, but sadly didn't take in things like the wheels and head-unit, which I knew could be split from the car and sold for another few thousand (import wheels from Japan - no fake parts ), and the Waze did not have the 60/40 seats that I wanted for practicality.

A few days later when the dealer confirmed their deals for the quarter I put down a deposit on a City Cross in black, with spare wheel and 60/40 seats, and went to work trying to sell the Honda privately. Fast forward a few weeks of rediculous trade offers - drift cars, direct swap for a bone stock version of the Honda with more miles because "it would be easier to sell", and a very clearly financed and modified Fiesta ST were some highlights - a guy 2 miles from me asked if he could see the car that afternoon. A quick test drive and I was following him back to his to do the paperwork. I've sold 2 cars privately and both have ended up working out fantastically - I'm assuming that's my luck of selling privately all used up! Even more good news the next day as the Fiat dealer called to say the car had arrived from Italy a month early! The next weekend was back up to the midlands to collect the car. Whilst I understand the sceptism from "stealerships", there are still some good ones and deals can be had, like a few have said on here, you should never be paying list price from a dealer.
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Re: My New City Cross

Good on you Moose. Here was I thinking I am the only City Cross in the UK as I have yet to see one anywhere. Not helped by being in a Fiat Free Zone (Fylde, Lancashire).

I went for white with Style pack, mainly to protect front bib and side panels from dints and supermarket sweeps. Also have winter pack plus tinted rears, the latter to hide stuff I invariably have lying around the 60/40 seats.

Must admit I love the silky smooth 1200 engine and getting 46mpg around town is very useful.

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Cool. I'd like to try the 1.2 (mine is a TwinAir). Only thing I don't like is the new 4x4-style closed roof bars
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Cool. I'd like to try the 1.2 (mine is a TwinAir). Only thing I don't like is the new 4x4-style closed roof bars
Mine is 12 months old in May. It has the open roof bars but I did notice the one above has closed roof bars. Didn't realise Fiat had changed it. Unless open roof bars are part of the Style pack.

Pictures of mine at https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...ity-cross.html
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Mine... has the open roof bars but I did notice the one above has closed roof bars. Didn't realise Fiat had changed it. Unless open roof bars are part of the Style pack.
City Cross and 'regular' 4x4 get flush roof rails (as can Lounge). The 'real' (4x4) Cross gets the open ones.
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Good on you Moose. Here was I thinking I am the only City Cross in the UK as I have yet to see one anywhere. Not helped by being in a Fiat Free Zone (Fylde, Lancashire).

I went for white with Style pack, mainly to protect front bib and side panels from dints and supermarket sweeps. Also have winter pack plus tinted rears, the latter to hide stuff I invariably have lying around the 60/40 seats.
I've seen another City Cross near me - in yellow too! I'll admit I completely forgot about the tinted windows until I saw the yellow city cross yesterday, I do wish I'd gone for that now. At the same time, there have been so many break-ins to cars around me that I don't leave anything in the car anyway!

Did yours come with floor matts? I'm trying to weigh up plastic or carpeted but would rather not spend too much on either as they get trashed by all the dirt I bring in to the car.
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City Cross and 'regular' 4x4 get flush roof rails (as can Lounge). The 'real' (4x4) Cross gets the open ones.
The City Cross on https://www.fiat.co.uk/panda-range/panda-city-cross is shown with open rails. Guess I got lucky with mine just before the change but Fiat are guilty of misleading customers by not updating the pics on their site.
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City Cross and 'regular' 4x4 get flush roof rails (as can Lounge). The 'real' (4x4) Cross gets the open ones.
But yes, you can still select the 'pretend pack' and get the proper roof bars and body mods. You have to look under 'comfort and functionality' now instead of 'styling' in the configurator
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I've seen another City Cross near me - in yellow too! I'll admit I completely forgot about the tinted windows until I saw the yellow city cross yesterday, I do wish I'd gone for that now. At the same time, there have been so many break-ins to cars around me that I don't leave anything in the car anyway!

Did yours come with floor matts? I'm trying to weigh up plastic or carpeted but would rather not spend too much on either as they get trashed by all the dirt I bring in to the car.
Are you sure it was a City Cross and not a "real" Cross. With the Style pack, the two models are virtually indistinguishable.

I couldn't get yellow with my City Cross as yellow was, and as far as I am aware, available only with the real Cross. Colours are limited on the City Cross. I ordered mats with the car but I recently bought a good set of 4 heavy rubber mats from Aldi at £6.99 that are a great fit and good quality.
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Are you sure it was a City Cross and not a "real" Cross. With the Style pack, the two models are virtually indistinguishable.

I couldn't get yellow with my City Cross as yellow was, and as far as I am aware, available only with the real Cross. Colours are limited on the City Cross. I ordered mats with the car but I recently bought a good set of 4 heavy rubber mats from Aldi at £6.99 that are a great fit and good quality.
I obviously can't say for sure, given that a Cross can have the City Cross style pack and vice-versa, but on the online configuration you can definitely select Tropicalia Yellow for a City Cross (and I seem to recall it as an option when I ordered mine). With the different style packs though it is impossible to distinguish without being told by the owner.


I will have a look at Aldi - I'd probably want rubber for driver's side and carpet for the other 3, so would need to buy 2 sets...!
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The City Cross on https://www.fiat.co.uk/panda-range/panda-city-cross is shown with open rails. Guess I got lucky with mine just before the change but Fiat are guilty of misleading customers by not updating the pics on their site.
Indeed! On the configurator it shows the closed bars: https://www.fiat.co.uk/panda-range/p...3000/exteriors

And also confirms yes, Tropicana Yellow can be had with the CityCross

But, yes, add the Cross Looks package and the ultrashine (and raised) bars appear: https://www.fiat.co.uk/panda-range/p...91CB3000/packs
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Indeed! On the configurator it shows the closed bars:
And also confirms yes, Tropicana Yellow can be had with the CityCross

But, yes, add the Cross Looks package and the ultrashine (and raised) bars appear:
When it came time to order I configured it on the website, took screenshots of the images & the spec list and emailed it to the dealer, and then called to confirm exactly what I was ordering was correct.


I remember when I was 7 my mum ordered a Mini Cooper S (when it was re-made in the early 2000s) and she had ordered all navy blue. When it showed up it had a white roof that she was forever disapointed with - I didn't want to end up without the 60/40 seats for example. Thankfully the Fiat salesman was great at communication so all worked out ok - but worth bearing in mind for anyone ordering a new Fiat - can never check enough.
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Hi all, been lurking the forums for the past few months, finally posting my ride!

TL;DR - my new Panda City Cross!

The Car

1.2 petrol, Black, spacesaver wheel, 60/40 seats - not a massive spec list but it's inkeeping with the simple car!

My thoughts after a month:
  • so much easier to park, and get in and out of everywhere without worrying about scraping or curbing expensive wheels
  • very comfortable interior and seating positioning - I do a lot of trail running so to not have to climb down in to a car after running for 3 hours in the cold and mud is pure luxury
  • very easy to drive, in traffic or motorway speed
  • bigger than the last generation of Panda, space for 5 people comfortably
The only issue I've found so far is the bonnet catch not working when dropping the bonnet to close - it needs a hefty push after dropping to get it to catch. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this?

I have some additions to the car planned:
  • some interior accessories for storage - a seatback storage pouch as some things like sunglasses do rattle a bit
  • mud guards
  • roof rack and roofbox & bike rack (after spending a few days in Norway last autumn I'm fully set on spending a little more and getting a very slimline roofbox rather than a cheap Halfords job)
I'm also planning to head to the Alps in late summer in the car, pictures will definitely follow that!

The Buying Story (the ramble)


I had been driving a modified Honda (as tasteful as a modified Honda can be, I stand behind all the parts being quality and from legitimate companies - no fake wheels or exhausts) whilst it was great fun to drive it was completely impractical. My mind was fully set on a new car when I drove to Ireland with my girlfriend in the summer and her 15 year old Aygo could fit more luggage in, and could actually get on/off the ferry without scraping - coilovers are cool until you get stuck!

My first thought was the new Suzuki Jimny. I'd be using the car to about 10% of its offroading potential but it does look very cool. However internet speculation and hype meant that the early indications of a £13k-£15k base price were way off the mark, and the issue of basically no rear seats meant that for carrying more than 2 people it would be no more practical than the Honda.

Whilst watching videos of the Jimny I started getting YouTube suggestions for the Panda, in various trims. I'd had a 2006 Panda Eco that I bought from my parents as my first car, and whilst it had been sold on after a few electrical issues that lead to me not trusting the car I did love how easy and practical it was.

I test drove a Panda in the midlands, a few hundred miles from home but close to my girlfriend at university and the salesman at the dealer was actually a genuinely nice guy (like all of us I've had some frustrating experiences - the local Honda dealer is well known in the area for being terrible at communication). I almost left that day with a Panda Waze, the part-ex for my Honda was actually quite good, but sadly didn't take in things like the wheels and head-unit, which I knew could be split from the car and sold for another few thousand (import wheels from Japan - no fake parts ), and the Waze did not have the 60/40 seats that I wanted for practicality.

A few days later when the dealer confirmed their deals for the quarter I put down a deposit on a City Cross in black, with spare wheel and 60/40 seats, and went to work trying to sell the Honda privately. Fast forward a few weeks of rediculous trade offers - drift cars, direct swap for a bone stock version of the Honda with more miles because "it would be easier to sell", and a very clearly financed and modified Fiesta ST were some highlights - a guy 2 miles from me asked if he could see the car that afternoon. A quick test drive and I was following him back to his to do the paperwork. I've sold 2 cars privately and both have ended up working out fantastically - I'm assuming that's my luck of selling privately all used up! Even more good news the next day as the Fiat dealer called to say the car had arrived from Italy a month early! The next weekend was back up to the midlands to collect the car. Whilst I understand the sceptism from "stealerships", there are still some good ones and deals can be had, like a few have said on here, you should never be paying list price from a dealer.
Looks pretty cool!

Yeah the bonnet situation has always irked me... Have to lean on it to get it shut lol
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Looks pretty cool!

Yeah the bonnet situation has always irked me... Have to lean on it to get it shut lol
Sorta good to know someone else is having it... Have you tried putting anything on the catch to get it to work better? I tried GT85 but nothing yet - pushing is fine but would rather it just worked!
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Sorta good to know someone else is having it... Have you tried putting anything on the catch to get it to work better? I tried GT85 but nothing yet - pushing is fine but would rather it just worked!
I'll be honest I didn't think about fixing it. I Just assumed it was supposed to be that way lol
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