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Old 11-09-2018   #1
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Wheels and tyres

Good day ladies and gents.
Hope its all going well.
I have a rather puzzling question. Ive been told the wheels on my 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 pop is of 4x98 pcd... and i see that the size of OEM wheels are 14 inches etc.
Now, I am looking into getting aftermarket wheels for this vehicle, what is the biggest and widest i can go possible without it looking wrong? and also can I use "wobble nuts" to make the choices of wheels a little easier (4x100 PCD) as an example.
Any and all help will be great.
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Good day ladies and gents.
Hope its all going well.
I have a rather puzzling question. Ive been told the wheels on my 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 pop is of 4x98 pcd... and i see that the size of OEM wheels are 14 inches etc.
Now, I am looking into getting aftermarket wheels for this vehicle, what is the biggest and widest i can go possible without it looking wrong? and also can I use "wobble nuts" to make the choices of wheels a little easier (4x100 PCD) as an example.
Any and all help will be great.
The holey trinity of wheel measurements are:

1. PCD = 98mm
2. Centre Bore = 58.1mm
3. Offset = varies

You could use PCD100 (Punto Grande) wheels with wobble bolts as long as the centre bore is the same, though I personally wouldn't.

Size and width of wheel will depend on the tyre. A few people on here have fitted 17 inch wheels. The standard 15 inch alloys are a good compromise of comfort/handling though.
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Offset always relates to width.

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All 7Jx16" and 7Jx17" Fiat Bravo (steel/Alloy) wheels fit the Panda.
With 205/45R16" tires or 205/40R17" tires.
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All 7Jx16" and 7Jx17" Fiat Bravo (steel/Alloy) wheels fit the Panda.
With 205/45R16" tires or 205/40R17" tires.
... and you'll not get a more experienced or highly qualified answer about wheels and tyres from anyone else on the planet
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Good day ladies and gents.
Hope its all going well.
I have a rather puzzling question. Ive been told the wheels on my 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 pop is of 4x98 pcd... and i see that the size of OEM wheels are 14 inches etc.
Now, I am looking into getting aftermarket wheels for this vehicle, what is the biggest and widest i can go possible without it looking wrong? and also can I use "wobble nuts" to make the choices of wheels a little easier (4x100 PCD) as an example.
Any and all help will be great.
I've got 17x7 et 35 pcd 4x98 wheels on my car with 205/40R17 tyres. They ride like a dream and even comfort isn't that bad with Novitec lowering springs.
Get relatively light wheels and good tyres and experience great handling with comfort.
Get heavy wheels with iffy tyres and experience worse handling then stock with no comfort.
I can whole hartedly recommand Asa Tec AS 2 wheels in 17x7 inch with correct 4x98 pcd and et35 offset. They are relatively light, strong and available in many many colours. I could also recommand the Continental Premium Contact 6 in 205/40. Awesome tyre with excelent grip in all conditions with great feel and comfort.
Here's my set up:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...-my-panda.html
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I've got 17x7 et 35 pcd 4x98 wheels on my car with 205/40R17 tyres. They ride like a dream and even comfort isn't that bad with Novitec lowering springs.
Get relatively light wheels and good tyres and experience great handling with comfort.
Get heavy wheels with iffy tyres and experience worse handling then stock with no comfort.
I can whole hartedly recommand Asa Tec AS 2 wheels in 17x7 inch with correct 4x98 pcd and et35 offset. They are relatively light, strong and available in many many colours. I could also recommand the Continental Premium Contact 6 in 205/40. Awesome tyre with excelent grip in all conditions with great feel and comfort.
Here's my set up:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/...-my-panda.html
How much loss of fuel economy did you experience with such a big change in size? They do look marvellous
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How much loss of fuel economy did you experience with such a big change in size? They do look marvellous
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I would say about 10/15 % loss.
I only ride a lot on the freeway though(80%) and do hardly any city driving so results may differ.
I also think you loose some absolute top speed but that's hardly a problem in the real world. Also the % the speedo is off is very little with this tyre size so this might also give some different results. With the stock 15" wheels the speedo error is much bigger.
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How much loss of fuel economy did you experience with such a big change in size? They do look marvellous
It's not just fuel economy that will add to your running costs.

Fitting larger wheels & tyres will also likely increase the wear and tear on the suspension components; they're not, shall we say, of the highest quality to start with.

It may also result in an increase in your insurance premium.
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There are many factors that have a influence fuel economy.

Wheel & tire weight.
Wheel & tire size.
Wheel & tire circumference.

And most important Throttle use.
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It's not just fuel economy that will add to your running costs.

Fitting larger wheels & tyres will also likely increase the wear and tear on the suspension components; they're not, shall we say, of the highest quality to start with.

It may also result in an increase in your insurance premium.
Good points. I only drive 8000km a year so the extra wear is not that a big of a deal for my personal use. Also mainly silky smooth highway so I think it will be fine in my situation.
Shocks still feel fine though after 45000km.
Insurance wise it doesn't matter over here but I know the situation is different in the U.K.
When I had the 16" heavier wheels and older tyres the suspension did have to work harder so that surely will have had an effect on the suspension parts but this combination feels as smooth as the standard 15" wheels I had. I know it's hard to believe with 205/40 R17 but it just runs great.
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Good points. I only drive 8000km a year so the extra wear is not that a big of a deal for my personal use. Also mainly silky smooth highway so I think it will be fine in my situation.
Shocks still feel fine though after 45000km.
Insurance wise it doesn't matter over here but I know the situation is different in the U.K.
When I had the 16" heavier wheels and older tyres the suspension did have to work harder so that surely will have had an effect on the suspension parts but this combination feels as smooth as the standard 15" wheels I had. I know it's hard to believe with 205/40 R17 but it just runs great.
I can go with that, less tire hight means better working suspension.
Less wheel weight is a important part of it.
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All FIAT 500 wheels in 6Jx15 ET35 and 6.5Jx16" ET35 will also fit the panda.
15 inch with 185/55R15" and 195/55R15".
16 inch with 195/45R16" and 205/45R16"

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