General Panda a Pandino

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General Panda a Pandino

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Initial details of the Panda (City Cross) Waze are here...
https://www.fiat.co.uk/panda-range/panda-waze

I like the wheels. It seems to lose some of the side panels of the Cross

Call me an old fart but it looks lke a lot of fuss about next to nothing - I can see that the "enhancements" would be useful for some (few?) specific users but otherwise what's the point? (And what's a "waze" - really showing my age now.)
 
Call me an old fart but it looks lke a lot of fuss about next to nothing - I can see that the "enhancements" would be useful for some (few?) specific users but otherwise what's the point? (And what's a "waze" - really showing my age now.)
Waze is a free to use* satnav app for smartphones. The latest Panda's use a smartphone with a Fiat app (Panda/uConnect), mounted on the cradle on top of the dash, to make up for the lack of a built-in (500-style) digital screen in the car. This lets you control your music, or the radio etc, using big easy-to-press buttons on the phone screen. The latest version of the Panda app lets you control Waze from the home screen of the app - giving one even bigger, easy-to-press button to maker it safer (or at least, less dangerous) to use. Turn by turn directions appear on the panda app's home screen. It may also be controllable from the voice commands (not tried yet).

So the 'Panda Waze' is a sponsorship/promotional 'special' - like the previous Panda 4x4 Sisley or the K-Way collaborations. (each of those being clothing brands)

*Free, apart from the data costs: most phone contracts now give some data for free, generally more than enough to run Waze (or Google maps). Waze users can also report traffic issues with a simple button press as they encounter them - eg 'heavy traffic' or 'accident blocking road' - so the traffic info is often much more up to date than Google or TomTom.
 
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Thanks for that - so, presumably, if a Waze driver causes an accident it's because he/she was using his Panda to play a computer game. (Not against computers - they fed me and my family for 40-odd years, just against yet another means of distracting drivers.)
 
Thanks for that - so, presumably, if a Waze driver causes an accident it's because he/she was using his Panda to play a computer game. (Not against computers - they fed me and my family for 40-odd years, just against yet another means of distracting drivers.)

Game? Or, one of the best satnavs available? Take the point, but reports can all be made hands free.
 
Game? Or, one of the best satnavs available? Take the point, but reports can all be made hands free.


I'm not saying I agree with this, but I can see the day coming when it will be illegal to have any kind of visual satnav display running within the view of the driver in a moving vehicle. There are already several groups lobbying for this to be passed into law.
 
I'm not saying I agree with this, but I can see the day coming when it will be illegal to have any kind of visual satnav display running within the view of the driver in a moving vehicle. There are already several groups lobbying for this to be passed into law.
Again, I don't disagree. But right now, most models of Fiat, apart from the Panda, have in-built nav displays on the dash as do pretty well every other car make these days. Of course, with all these (Panda too), you can choose to turn them off.

Personally, I use a map (and 'drive' the tricky bits on Google Streetview before I leave). Sat nav is useful though when the motorway grinds to a halt. And at that point, when stationary, I too will use it to gauge what the issue is, how delayed I might be, and maybe find an alternative.

Last from me on this.
 
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I'm not saying I agree with this, but I can see the day coming when it will be illegal to have any kind of visual satnav display running within the view of the driver in a moving vehicle. There are already several groups lobbying for this to be passed into law.

Seriously? Modern satnavs are a damned sight less dangerous than driving one-handed while trying to turn the pages of an AA map, or taking ones eyes off the road to read a map, or a complex road sign, or the name of a street, etc etc.

And if we're serious about avoiding distractions while driving, then let's ban kids, mother-in-laws, animals, smoking, mobile phones, polo mints, etc.

Every time I drive a car with a state-of-the-art satnav (so not a Panda), I'm struck by how clear, easy to use and non-distracting (undistracting?) they are. Frankly, I'm far more worried about the idiots who text while driving, or light fags, or apply makeup, or any of the other f-witted things that people get up to behind the wheel. Satnav doesn't even come close.
 
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Seriously? Modern satnavs are a damned sight less dangerous than driving one-handed while trying to turn the pages of an AA map, or taking ones eyes off the road to read a map, or a complex road sign, or the name of a street, etc etc.

And if we're serious about avoiding distractions while driving, then let's ban kids, mother-in-laws, animals, smoking, mobile phones, polo mints, etc.

Every time I drive a car with a state-of-the-art satnav (so not a Panda), I'm struck by how clear, easy to use and non-distracting (undistracting?) they are. Frankly, I'm far more worried about the idiots who text while driving, or light fags, or apply makeup, or any of the other f-witted things that people get up to behind the wheel. Satnav doesn't even come close.

I'd concur with all that you've said. My own view is that an appropriately mounted satnav is more of an asset than a distraction and that a blanket ban will do more harm than good.

But there are some campaigners out there that want to see the use of in-car screens banned, period. For example, Alice Bailey, campaigns adviser for road safety charity Brake:

"Distraction is at least partly to blame in a huge number of crashes and must be kept to an absolute minimum.

As the government increases penalties for using a mobile at the wheel, recognising the danger, it seems crazy that manufacturers are encouraging the use of apps while driving via in-car screens.

We would like them to be banned. They’re such a huge distraction."

In a light aircraft, I can talk on a handheld radio and manipulate all the in-cockpit navigation equipment. To get a licence to fly, I had to demonstrate that I could do both whilst maintaining an adequate visual lookout.

But if I did the same in a moving car, I'd be committing a number of offences. Because of this, I've now stopped using a smartphone app to navigate in the car whilst driving, despite having a good one that's (IMO) both safe and useful.

We're in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
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