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Old 06-06-2018   #16
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That's decidedly yin and yang!

I hired a Mustang Convertible in California a while back. Poop, poop!
Do not doubt it one bit. Could be the worst car ever made. I'm Fiat/Italian through and through but (excluding supercars - other that Fiats) there was/were two American cars that raised my eyebrows. The Ford Mustang and the Corvette Stingray. Probably some others if I'm honest but these two seemed to tick my box. And yes back then drum brakes, atrocious handling, fuel hungry point and shoot death traps. Iconic ways to terminate a love affair and hopefully not get buried at the same time!
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My all-time favourite from across the pond is the Corvette Mako Shark II. All down to that awesome Airfix/MDC model that I painstakingly assembled, nigh on 50 years ago!

*apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread on a nostalgia trip*
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Iíve just phoned my local dealer in Chipping Sodbury to book my wifeís car in for a service. As her PCP is due for renewal I thought Iíd take the opportunity to test drive a City Cross and thought maybe we could have it on an extended test drive.
Was a bit taken aback when he said they donít sell Fiats anymore.
It seems that Fiat are putting high sales targets on dealers but theyíre too high for the smaller ones to deliver against.
As a result they made the decision to stop selling new cars.
They are still a Fiat approved service centre though.
Itís a real shame as they do a good job servicing both our Fiats and Iíd have liked to put more business in their direction, but as we now have no dealers in our immediatte area Fiat will lose our business for both cars now.
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@NitramA apparently Simonstone Fiat at Bath Rd Bristol around 9 miles from you. My local dealer that was half an hour (20 miles away). Now my local dealer 47 miles away . Anything major going wrong could be interesting to get it there at short notice. But wouldn't put me off the brand. At least not in the short term.
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@NitramA apparently Simonstone Fiat at Bath Rd Bristol around 9 miles from you. My local dealer that was half an hour (20 miles away). Now my local dealer 47 miles away . Anything major going wrong could be interesting to get it there at short notice. But wouldn't put me off the brand. At least not in the short term.
Weíre actually around 20 miles from Simonstones.
Ironically weíve moved to our new address less than a year ago, and our old house was about 2 miles from them. If you know Bristol they couldnít be in a worse place as itís grid lock around them for most of the day.

I also bought the First Panda off them back in 2009 and they were really good.
Since then I tried to buy our current Trekking (they were too expensiveJ and my 500x (they flat refused to place a factory order and wanted me to buy from stock), so weíve sort of lost interest in them.

I have to admit all our Fiats have been very reliable, but it puts you off when the amount of dealers around us are disappearing.

I agree that in the short term distance isnít a problem but when it comes to time for a new car itís part of the decision process.
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I have to say it's not surprising. My experience of the Fiat dealer network was pretty average. Some great dealers like Griffin Mill in Pontypridd and W Sanders in Holsworthy, the rest like Vospers and Wessex Garages pretty dreadful. I love the cars generally but I have very little loyalty to the brand/service.

Fiats are not selling particularly well in general, I believe registrations are significantly down year-on-year once again. Have a look at the latest SMMT data - the overall market is nearly 7% down in terms of registration numbers for 2018 compared to 2017, but Fiat are nearly 31% down!
https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

Admittedly that is quite a crude way of looking at it, but clearly it isn't a positive picture.
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I have to say it's not surprising. My experience of the Fiat dealer network was pretty average. Some great dealers like Griffin Mill in Pontypridd and W Sanders in Holsworthy, the rest like Vospers and Wessex Garages pretty dreadful. I love the cars generally but I have very little loyalty to the brand/service.

Fiats are not selling particularly well in general, I believe registrations are significantly down year-on-year once again. Have a look at the latest SMMT data - the overall market is nearly 7% down in terms of registration numbers for 2018 compared to 2017, but Fiat are nearly 31% down!
https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

Admittedly that is quite a crude way of looking at it, but clearly it isn't a positive picture.
Not very good figures from Europe either.
http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/fiat/
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Not very good figures from Europe either.
http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/fiat/
Interesting - subjective observation here in rural Italy is that the small 500 is running out of steam - not many late-reg ones around - the big so-called 500 is doing well, the Tipo is not doing badly, the Panda is selling well - lots of new/newish ones around - and that there are many more Jeeps (the smallish ones based on the 500 platform) than there used to be.
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I would be interested to know what mark-up fiat dealers make on spare parts because last year when placing an order for service parts a main dealer sold me an oil filter for £4.00 when other dealers were retailing these around £12, genuine Fiat parts are traditionally very expensive compared with parts for other brands, last year ,I ordered 5 rear wing bolts for my Tipo and the cost was just over £17 .
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Prior to Parks in Irvine we had Bickets in Kilmarnock. Parks are way OTT on parts prices, Bickets though were brilliant with parts cheaper than Ford.
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Simonstones ....... If you know Bristol they couldnít be in a worse place as itís grid lock around them for most of the day.
Indeed. I have a Jeep (I'm here for my wife's Fiat) where the dealer situation is even worse. Jeep and Fiat are now both owned by FCA (Fiat Chrysler Autos), but there are still far more Fiat dealers than Jeep. I am in Wales, and there is only one Jeep dealer in Wales - in far-off Haverfordwest, not even Cardiff or Newport. My nearest Jeep dealer is Simonstone, although I have never been there. Usually I do my own maintenance and get parts from certain grey importers.
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Came across something which suggests if a dealer doesn't want to sell Fiats anymore they have to give them 2 years notice. Whether Fiat has to give them considerably less am not sure. Appears dealer in Blackpool now no longer does them as been told by couple of members on here. So Preston, Lancashire or Keswick, Cumbria if my car still under warranty. Missed one of the "inspections", so not sure.
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