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Old 10-05-2018   #1
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fog light installation procedure

Hello i'm mark
I have version without fog lights so i bought:
fog covers & fog lights.
my question is:
Do i need any other components beside those two?
And of course a manual procedure will help.

thank in advance and sorry for bad english.

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Re: fog light installation procedure

Hello Mark and welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately, it seems nobody has tried to do this before and even if they did, they didn't come back to the forum to tell us if it worked or not. The biggest problem will probably be the ECU or body computer, depending on which one normally controls the fog lights. This becomes a problem because depending on how you wire the lights to the car, the power draw will be detected by the CANBUS system and register a problem unless one of those two computers (whichever one is supposed to control them) is reprogrammed to recognize the fog lights, or swapped with one from a car with fog lights.

Then again, maybe you wire them up and they just work! Honestly, I'm not sure and like I said, nobody who tried has come back to tell us if it worked or not... I hope you aren't like the others and let us know how everything goes, and take lots of pictures!
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Re: fog light installation procedure

You need a lot more to make it work IMHO.
First, is there any wiring in place for fog light at all. ??
Second, additional to that, is there any fog lights wiring behind the control panel at all. ??
Third, if there is any wiring in place you need to place the original controle button, don't know if you can buy it separately or that you need a compleet control panel.
Fourth, when everything is installed, will it work or not. ??
Fifth, when not, you need to activate it in the body computer, hoping the activation protocol is there in the first place.

I have ask it one time at my FIAT dealer and they told me it's not possible.
Don't know how truth that really is.

You can always install it as a "stand alone" fitment straight from the accu/batterie with a "stand Alone" control button and fuse.
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Re: fog light installation procedure

In the good old days (80's) I remember that the wiring looms were the same in all versions of a particular model. Must have bee a cost saving thing, one loom fits all.
So if you had a basic car and wanted to fit a boot light or a digital clock or fog lights you just had a rummage around and the wiring was there somewhere.
I'm not so sure now though as I've not had to do this in a while. The last time I retro fitted anything was to a Mk 2 Punto in 2003.
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Re: fog light installation procedure

I want to upgrade the Horn/Claxon, and when you see what kind of connector is used, it is not even possible to connect another horn/claxon without cutting off the connector.
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Re: fog light installation procedure

Yes there is wiring is just i just need to plug it in.
If the project will be done,it will not be diy i will send the car to an electrician.
I want to give him all the part and the knowledge i can get so the work would take lees time.
In the central consule i missing one button.
It's the first after the emergency light(left side wheel) does this button has to do something with front fog light?
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Quote Originally Posted by mark avnilov View Post
Yes there is wiring is just i just need to plug it in.
If the project will be done,it will not be diy i will send the car to an electrician.
I want to give him all the part and the knowledge i can get so the work would take lees time.
In the central consule i missing one button.
It's the first after the emergency light(left side wheel) does this button has to do something with front fog light?
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Re: fog light installation procedure

is this the button that activate the fog light?
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Quote Originally Posted by muttleysdad View Post
In the good old days (80's) I remember that the wiring looms were the same in all versions of a particular model. Must have bee a cost saving thing, one loom fits all.
So if you had a basic car and wanted to fit a boot light or a digital clock or fog lights you just had a rummage around and the wiring was there somewhere.
I'm not so sure now though as I've not had to do this in a while. The last time I retro fitted anything was to a Mk 2 Punto in 2003.
In 1989 the Renault 5 wiring loom was 'one size fits all'; common across the range. You could easily retrofit anything you could scrounge the parts for. Just find the right accessories, relays and switches from a breakers, connect to the loom and you were good to go.

But we're not in Kansas anymore. Nowadays computer managed assembly makes it possible to fit each car with just what's needed for its specific options list, and with CANBUS controlled modules almost nothing is plug and play anymore. You can't even swap a burnt out window winder motor without connecting to the computer and coding the replacement to the car.

Nowadays, if there's an option available for your car that you want but don't have, the cheapest way to get it is probably to trade your car in for one that does. The exceptions are the dealer fit options which are retrospectively fitted by the dealers once the car has left the factory.
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is this the button that activate the fog light?
yes, the other is the rear fog light.
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