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2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi there good people.

I have a really confusing question that I am hoping somebody can help me with.
I've recently purchased a vacuum / boost gauge that I am wanting to install.
I've also installed an aftermarket cold air intake and also a oil catch can.

Now this is the silly question maybe, what vacuum line do I connect the gauge to to get a reading? because of the oil catch can installation and the aftermarket cold air intake I've installed, I only see two lines open, one by the top of the tappet cover,(which is connected to the oil catch can) and the other one near the electronic throttle body,(which is a thinner line) but when i install it there, the gauge doesnt move, unless i completely block off the line on the otherside with a screw.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Pictures please.. something doesn't seem right.. so you now have a line going from vacum to atmosphere?
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi.
A vacuum gauge should be tapped in to the inlet manifold side of the throttle butterfly. Probably not the easiest thing to do. There is a thin breather pipe from the air box to a manifold connection but this is to allow the engine to suck in fumes at tick over so should be connected at all times. You could connect the gauge there temporarily for a test. Connecting it to the brake servo pipe with a T piece is not recommended as it won't be accurate due to variations when braking and you are interfering with a safety related item so this could effect insurance and of course braking effect.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

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I only see two lines open, one by the top of the tappet cover,(which is connected to the oil catch can) and the other one near the electronic throttle body,(which is a thinner line) but when i install it there, the gauge doesnt move, unless i completely block off the line on the otherside with a screw.
They are both breathers.
The larger one on top of the cam cover is the crankcase breather.
The smaller one is a breather/balancer for the throttle body.

As written, you'll need to tap the inlet manifold.
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Hi. I have no idea as to how to load pictures... hehe.
If you would be so kind as to tell me how to do so,I will most gladly attach pictures. As I am not sure as to how to connect it correctly.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi.
Press reply, then advanced, scroll down to Manage Attachments, once pressed a pop up window should appear if it doesn't you may have a pop up blocker enabled or it may say something like enable pop ups from the Fiat forum. Once you have the pop up you'll see choose file, pressing this and a window will appear where you have to select where you stores your photos. Once found click on and upload them.
They should then appear on the thread.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Why are you installing a boost gauge in a non-turbo?
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi.
Its a vacuum gauge the OP is fitting. Some I believe are combined with a boost gauge which of course as you point out is irrelevant on a non turbo.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Hi there.
Thank you very much for the assistance.
Ive attached two photos so long. Will be adding more asap.

I wanted the vacuum side of the gauge to do the readings, as i am planning on running a cs12 supercharger in the next few months, hope sooner than later.
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Hi.
here are some more photos, hope this helps possibly.
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

Oh great. A hot air intake. That should cost you a few ponies...

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Quote Originally Posted by Gys View Post
Hi there.
Thank you very much for the assistance.
Ive attached two photos so long. Will be adding more asap.

I wanted the vacuum side of the gauge to do the readings, as i am planning on running a cs12 supercharger in the next few months, hope sooner than later.
I have all the necessary state of the art parts for the Rotrex C15 SC serie.
It uses the space occupied by the AC pump, and uses a siamese crank pulley.
The Rotrex C15 series is available in C15-16, C15-20 and C15-60.
@ 10 psi, it would have around 110 hp with the C15-16, and Around 123 hp with the C-15-20.
The C15-60 make only sense with upgraded internals and more then 15 psi.
In that case you running 160+ hp.
But then you also need a upgraded, gearbox, Clutch, and driveshafts.
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Oh great. A hot air intake. That should cost you a few ponies...

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No fan of aftermarket air intake systems.
I had on my past Panda 169 with 1.2ltr 69 hp engine, just a panel filter change and a remap, ending up at real 75 hp and 123 Nm.
Most tuners go for around 80 hp and 110 Nm. (i prefer more torque increase then hp's)
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Re: 2015 Fiat Panda 1.2 8v

What I meant is that you'd want nice cold air with more oxygen to burn. Preferrably from somewhere in front of the radiator.
With this setup the engine will suck in hot air from the exhaustmanifold (mind you there's not even a heatshield) and it'll loose performance.
And If one increases torque it'll automatically increase horsepower at the same rpm.

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