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Old 15-03-2018   #46
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

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Could the use of thinner oil in the Euro 6 engines just be an emissions bodge, thinner lighter oil to bring it down for the tests and nothing to do with actual engine issues?
Probably yes!
But it's not only the weight, the oil characteristic is different for the Euro 6 engine as well!
C2 oil for Euro 6 and C3 for Euro 5...
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To answer my own question:
Was over at my local Fiatdealer (go-to place for over 20 years now) and the mechanic said to absolutely use 0W30 in the older twinairs as well and change oil very regular. (at least once a year regardless of how much it's used)

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Today I was at my local Fiat dealer(who has been for a short while after the old Fiat dealer stopped) to book my 2013 Twinair Turbo for a oil and filter change.
When I said I just had it changed to be safe and didn't reach the indicated service milage yet he himself started telling how important it was for the Twinair engines and that he also recommands changing it anually if you don't drive much. He also said that when they started the dealership he called around with several well regarded dealers and that they all told him to absolutely always use the specified Selenia oil for the Twinair and Multiair engines to prevent a lot of issues.
He also said that the specified Selenia oil contained special additives that help keep the oil lines and path thrue the engine and uniair/multiair units clean and that this isn't always the case with other oils and that this was why using Selenia was so important for Fiat.
I was realy pleased to hear that all of this came from the dealer himself without me asking what oil they are using and that he realy takes the service seriously for his newly aquired brand.
Needless to say I will be changing my oil every year from now on and hope this will prevent me from problems with the uniair unit. Uptill now the engine has been running perfectly for 40000km's.
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

My 4x4 TA is exactly five years old and has done almost 58,000 miles - changed the oil at 5,000 miles an annually after that - like tyres it seems foolish to scrimp on oil changes.
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My 4x4 TA is exactly five years old and has done almost 58,000 miles - changed the oil at 5,000 miles an annually after that - like tyres it seems foolish to scrimp on oil changes.
That's exactly what I did. I also had the first oil and filter change at 5000 miles. Leaving the first oil in there for 2 years or 18000 miles just felt wrong.
There must be some extra dirt or metal particals in the engine as a result of the production and run in of the engine.
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That's exactly what I did. I also had the first oil and filter change at 5000 miles. Leaving the first oil in there for 2 years or 18000 miles just felt wrong.
There must be some extra dirt or metal particals in the engine as a result of the production and run in of the engine.
In days past, engines were run in using straight mineral oil as the additives in modern oils are counterproductive to the proper bedding in of the metal parts. The oil would then be changed after the first 500-1000 miles, after which the normal spec of the oil for the car would be used. That first oil change would be included in the price of the car, but sometime in the 1990's the manufacturers decided they could save the cost of this and discontinued the practice.

Some new car owners have been known to drain their car when they first take delivery and follow a similar process. This will likely invalidate your warranty, but you might end up with a better engine; long term power output, economy and oil consumption all benefit from proper running in.

The oft quoted line that modern engines no longer need running in originated in marketing, not engineering.
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

Apologies for the thread revival, but EuroCarParts are doing 4l of Petronas 7000E 0W30 C2 (reckoned earlier in this thread to be the same as their Selenia brand) for £24.50 at the moment, with free delivery. I've not seen it cheaper than that.
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

Good price..


Now to figure out if its the correct oil for my 2013 cars


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Looks like I need C3
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

I think the 7000 C3 was even cheaper!
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My next oil change..

That is exactly the same oil as this one:
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60166-f...ariantID=67425

Fuchs make the Quantum oil for VAG.
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Is it i didnt know..I Paid£19.99 from Ebay...
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Re: Where to buy TA oil from

Fine, if 5W-40 C3 is the recommended oil for yours.
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Yes...an early 12 reg two pot banger
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